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To: Sabertooth
Good propaganda post. I find the comment above an excellent summary of the Lynch Mob's beliefs...

"I see the Pales not as a people"

10 posted on 01/09/2002 5:25:14 AM PST by rdww
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To: rdww
The Jews and their great efforts made Israel what it is today. If it were up to the Arabs it would still be a wasteland.

You have a touching leftist style sympathy for a bunch of 3rd world misfits consumed by hatred. This is your heroic Palestinian people.

14 posted on 01/09/2002 5:31:11 AM PST by dennisw
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To: rdww
"I see the Pales as a people"

finish it

....but as a gang like the Cripes or the Bloods.

16 posted on 01/09/2002 5:35:44 AM PST by DeckTheHallsHolly
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To: rdww
Good propaganda post. I find the comment above an excellent summary of the Lynch Mob's beliefs...

"I see the Pales not as a people"

Not sure, but was your "propaganda" comment self-descriptive? I have a few reasons for asking...

First, you didn't dispute a single point in the article, you only called it "propaganda." Not particularly compelling.

Second, the quote you chose to address, you took out of context. All the more easy to miss the point, I suppose. Here's the actual quote:

"I see the Pales not as a people but as a gang like the Cripes or the Bloods. I see Israel as the Homeowner's Association."

An analogy was being made. You might disagree with it, but address the analogy.

Further, the phrase "a people" is not synonymous with "people." The statement, "I see the Pales not as a people," is not equvalent in meaning to "I see the Pales not as people." No one is suggesting that "Palestinians," or Crips or Bloods aren't people.

The point being made, the one you failed to address, is that there is no Historical basis for the claim that there is any such thing as a "Palestinian people."

Palestine is one name of a particular geographical region. Just like South America, or Indochina, or Southern California. While people live in all of those places, the fact that they might have a common geographical perimeter doesn't make them "peoples," with coherent and Historically valid national identies.

That's the point being made here about the "Palestinians." That's the argument you might consider addressing. Specifics would be nice.


26 posted on 01/09/2002 5:46:33 AM PST by Sabertooth
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To: rdww
The thread clearly demonstrates that Jerusalem, and the Dome of the Rock were never holy to the Moslems, until Israel reunited the city in 1967.

The severe neglect, and deterioration of the mosque while it was under Moslem control for hundreds of years illustrates that they really had no interest in that mosque, as an important religious site.

It has become a religious icon for them only as a lever against Israel. Another total Arab lie. All the Arabs do is LIE, LIE , LIE!!!

27 posted on 01/09/2002 5:47:15 AM PST by imperator2
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To: rdww
Your editorial comment aside, would you like to refute the basic assertion that before the Zionist return of the Jews to what is now Israel, the land was virtually empty? The fact seems to be that as the Jews rebuilt the land, built a society with an economy, cultivated the land, built cities, Arabs finally took interest in "Palestine," and moved in to benefit from the wealth that the Jews were creating.

The point of the post is that "Palestinians" are not indigeous to the land. Would you like to refute that?

78 posted on 01/09/2002 8:12:04 AM PST by My2Cents
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