Replies

But ya know, a Cath apologist I just finished discussing this with would tell you an undiscovered priest is still qualified to serve communion and perform "valid" Mass behind the altar.

Rubbish, such demons are vile and not worthy to touch the Blood & the Body as they remain unrepentant for thier ongoing sin. They walk not with Christ but satan.

The appearance then is that the ritual is served rather than Jesus

heres his quote

The disposition of the priest has no bearing on the validity of the sacraments celebrated by the priest. Jesus acts through the priest, whether the priest is in a state of grace or not.

But ya know, a Cath apologist I just finished discussing this with would tell you an undiscovered priest is still qualified to serve communion and perform "valid" Mass behind the altar.

Rubbish, such demons are vile and not worthy to touch the Blood & the Body as they remain unrepentant for thier ongoing sin. They walk not with Christ but satan.

I'm sorry you don't understand the concept. Indeed, a priest who just yelled at a staff member unjustly, or had a prideful thought, or told a small lie is not worthy to touch the Body and Blood.

So, using your test, we need to be absolutely sure that the priest has no sin before we can be sure if the sacrament is valid. Or we can realize, correctly, that the state of the man performing the Mass does not affect its efficaciousness.

But ya know, a Cath apologist I just finished discussing this with would tell you an undiscovered priest is still qualified to serve communion and perform "valid" Mass behind the altar.

Rubbish, such demons are vile and not worthy to touch the Blood & the Body as they remain unrepentant for thier ongoing sin. They walk not with Christ but satan.

Well, I'm that "Cath apologist," and you are simply wrong, my friend. You don't anything about the Christ works through man, apparently.

If a validly ordained priest celebrates Mass, the Mass IS VALID and grace is conferred. CHRIST GUARANTEES THIS. Why is this so hard for you to get through your thick skull?

I don't really care if you believe this or not. But, to set the record straight for others reading this forum, let me repeat what I told you before:

The disposition of the priest has no bearing on the validity of the sacraments celebrated by the priest. Jesus acts through the priest, whether the priest is in a state of grace or not.