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To: 4Freedom
Don't let them bother you. They will call you every name in the book. I've tried many time to reason, but when you bring up facts that drugs are bad and that following the socialist European way is not the way to go, they get 'snippy".

Just like this kid who blew his brains out, they will have all have the sympathy in the world, but then they will tell you that druggies should die out on the street. They have very selective symapthy. While I feel symapthy for the family, I can't have sympathy for the action, where someone can't handle getting arrested. It wasn't the end of the world and the kid probably had more problems than is being reported.

Rudy Guiliani proved in NYC when you get tough on minor crimes you stop the perpetuation of bigger crimes. The 8 last years show his success.

47 posted on 01/08/2002 8:05:21 AM PST by Dane
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To: Dane
I've tried many time to reason, but when you bring up facts that drugs are bad and that following the socialist European way is not the way to go, they get 'snippy".

I thought you were off boiling a rooster in Thunderbird ?

52 posted on 01/08/2002 8:17:28 AM PST by Eddeche
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To: Dane
I've tried many time to reason

Keep trying, maybe you'll get the hang of it someday.

57 posted on 01/08/2002 8:34:28 AM PST by Dakmar
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To: Dane
Dane; What took you so long, can't wait for you to post the graphs, that
show the increase in drug related crime. Or how about the crack house in my neighborhood.
OK, I will agree some drugs are bad, but not all
and I will also agree some people abuse them, but not all
It's time to make MJ legal...... If I want to take a little toke at home
what's the big deal???????
66 posted on 01/08/2002 9:28:53 AM PST by vin-one
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To: Dane; 4Freedom
I've tried many time to reason, but when you bring up facts that drugs are bad and that following the socialist European way is not the way to go, they get 'snippy".

Dane, do you WODers ever have anything more substantive than your own opinion? Drugs, bad. Europe, bad. Oh, that's pursuasive.

Why is it that in the debate about legalizing drugs, normally logical, facts-driven conservatives all of a sudden turn into mushy minded people who place more importance on their own feelings than on facts. This is exactly the behavior of liberals they love to pound, but apparently it's OK when WOD conservatives do it.

What do you have to say for yourself, Dane?

And I just love how every WOD-er here picks on Europe as a first resort. I'd venture to say you've never been to Belgium, 4Freedom, but don't let that stop you from speaking as some kind of authority on the matter. I however, have been to Belgium and most of the other countries you guys like to pick on and have never seen the drugged out zombies you're always referring to.

67 posted on 01/08/2002 9:30:25 AM PST by tdadams
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To: Dane
...but when you bring up facts that drugs are bad and that following the socialist European way is not the way to go, they get 'snippy".

Those are not facts, Dane. That's pure opinion. And you've done absolutely nothing to reinforce your argument with facts or backup your opinion with anything substantive.

How can you go and make the general statemnent that drugs are bad? Do you think prescription drugs like Lipitor, Prilosec, and Prosac are bad? Certainly not. Shocking news here: drugs can lead to a higher quality of life. Oh, yes, but those are presription drugs. Well, the only difference between a legal and illegal drug is some bureaucrat in Washington saying so.

And I find it ironic that you attach the adjective 'socialist' when mentioning Europe. True, much of Europe's economic policies are more socialist than in the U.S., but what does it's economic policy have to do with it's drug policy. They are wholly separate issues. You merely attach 'socialist' there to be pejorative.

Interestingly, your views could be considered more socialist themselves. You've tended to argue in many threads here, that drugs should be outlawed because they are detrimental to the social contract theory of human co-existance. Drug users tend to be less productive, comrade, and that harms the collective. HMmmmm! Who's the Socialist, Dane?

68 posted on 01/08/2002 9:51:39 AM PST by tdadams
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