[dhuffman@awod.com]

Because the logic of mathematics exists apart from man, I will say 'invented.'

One of your unstated premises is revealed in your use of the singular math, contrasted with maths. There are many mathematics related only by their common root in logic. For example, the math (probably better calculus) of RAMANUJAN. As I recall he, an untutored Hindu, invented a complete calculus of partitioning. Its utility was not recognized until computer technology was quite mature.

Another 'for instance' is statistics. Here lies the frustration that makes me say...

The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.

My +4 sd whatever you want to call it excludes me from the vast conspiracy of ignorance. I am solely responsible for my errors.

[dhuffman@awod.com]

That the logic of mathematics exists apart from man is the topic of Godel's Incompleteness Theorem.

I hope that the thought I gave to my response to The Rock isn't spilled on sterile ground.

The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.

[Pietro]

I have no unstated premise. I don't speak in code or secret symbologies, BTW, what in the hell is "+4 sd".

For what it's worth I think you're the #1 conehead in that conspiracy you're so fond of.

[TigersEye]

Because the logic of mathematics exists apart from man, I will say 'invented.'

The logic of this statement is completely at odds with itself.