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How could her hymen grow shut after giving birth? She sounds pretty much like a god to me! Only God and his angels can do what she can do! In fact she can do more than angels! Why don't you stop the double-speak and just admitt that you worship her and think she is the fourth person of the Godhead!?

Despite your apologies to the contrary, you have revealed yourself for what you are. No true Christian trying to win my soul for Christ would say such vulgar and offensive things. I will not engage debate with such as you.

By the way, it is bigoted lies such as yours here that drive folks back to Rome. Your ignorance is astounding even given the track record of Catholic baiters here on FR. If you desire to win souls for Christ you must completely stop attacking and offending and insulting. That drives people away from God, not to your own personal interpretation of scripture.

Ah here we go again. You don't want to address all of the questions I have raised, so you say that I am a bigot and not a true Christian. Only a true RC Christian would bow down to Mary. Anyone that does not accept her as the pope sees her is a heritic. Once again, show me in the Bible where it clearly says that Mary is co-redeemer on an equal par with Jesus. Show me where ANY of the things you hold true about Mary are in the bible. You won't because you can't! Just because some popes said so is not enough. I did appologize and I think you should do so with me, since you have taken apon yourself to play God and tell me that I am not saved!

You have not succeeded in distracting from the basic question GreaserX posed. Precisely how do you explain the perpetual virginity of Mary? There are tremendous scriptural and practical flaws in such belief, argued many times here at FR. If you wish to rely strictly upon your Magisterium, Catechisms, and papal infallibiliyt, you can of course establish that Mary was a perpetual virgin. Or that the moon is made of green cheese.

But scripture does not support Rome's opinions and the financial and institutional utility of the notion of the perpetual virginity of Mary. We do, of course, call her blessed as scripture instructs all generations will. And there we stop, leaving it to Rome and others to tread beyond the safety of the Word.

Just admit that the only basis for believing that Mary was a perpetual virgin is because your popes said so and I am perfectly willing to agree that you have a right to believe it. But the belief is absolutely unscriptural and was unknown in the early church.