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It's much as I said on another thread in the last couple of days: The President may be doing a sterling job as regards the war provoked by 9/11, but the era of big government, apparently, ain't over until it's over. And, incidentally, you could make all the restrictions, all the "reforms" you wish regarding the illegal immigration issue - yea, even sealing off the borders overnight - and you will never eliminate the problem until the great American welfare state is eliminated, once and for all. Until that day arrives, we will never be rid of illegal immigration (you could seal off the borders this instant and those desperate enough to get within reach of the American welfare state's gravy train will get there, as they always do, somehow) and back to the kind of immigration which we once enjoyed and with which we yet could live - imperfectly, of course, but a far shade from what we now contend with.

Once again, point well taken. And away we go!!

Illegal family of 3; 2 kids, 3 and 6.

Free section 8 housing 850 mo, feed taxes back in +350 =1200/mo

Medical(welfare) 3 people 150/mo, add taxes back in 50 for taxes =200/mo

Food stamps 350 mo, add taxes back in 425/mo

1200+200+425= 1,825/ mo FREE times 12= $21,900.00 free money a year to skip the border.