[garbanzo]

Employers should be allowed to shop for the lowest prices for labor that they can get. But the laws of market economics dictate how far down they can go.

The "they're-taking-our-jobs" approach strikes me as amazingly socialist in that it assumes that a person is entitled to a particular job at a particular price because he wants it at that price and the government's job is to prop up that price regardless of market conditions.

[Thorin]

No, the assumption isn't "socialist," it's American. Unlike the hyper-libertarians, I believe that nations are real entitities, not artificial constructs that should be pushed aside in favor of world government and corporate power.

I also believe that I have certain obligations to my country and my countrymen, and I do not want to see my countrymen lose work or suffer from declining wages as a result of mass immigration. If you'd examine American history, you would learn that many American statesmen felt the same way.