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To: Okiegolddust
Not really - you're confusing nationalism and tribalism which was the dominant form of social organization - let's be specific about definitions here - nationalism is the loyalty to the state as an abstract idea. Tribalism is loyalty to a biological group. The two are often intertwined and in their extreme forms are militaristic and xenophobic, e.g. Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany.

Also while republicanism supported the rise of nationalism that doesn't equate republicanism and nationalism - the two are vastly different concepts which can exist independently of each other.

But let's be practical here - Canada is not a socialist state. Most industries and businesses are in private hands and Canada has a substantial tradition of respect for human rights - I've never said Canada represents my political ideals but if given a choice between living in Canada and say Cuba, any reasonable person knows what choice to make there.

367 posted on 01/04/2002 10:19:54 AM PST by garbanzo
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To: garbanzo
#367:"But let's be practical here - Canada is not a socialist state."

No, just important segments of it's economy are.

Take your health care system.

Pure Marx....

372 posted on 01/04/2002 10:43:20 AM PST by Jethro Tull
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