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God, more stupidity on your part. Don't you ever stop and read for God's sake? For the "American cultural" numbers (i.e., "culturally acceptable"), look at the article rather than gloss over it - you'll find the following paragraph:

To bolster "American cultural" numbers, Buchanan concludes in The Death of the West, American women should be encouraged via tax breaks to increase the country's population: "A free society cannot force women to have children, but a healthy society can reward those who preserve it by doing so."

"American cultural" is in quotes from Buchanan's book. I even put it in bold for you.

Let's deal with the rest of the crap in your post.

My question, "On this side of the pond, dear Ivan, we the people are the government."
Your answer, "Sounds rather like the socialists saying that the government is the extension of "the will of the people"
My question was based on the Preamble to the United States Constitution. Please allow me to introduce it to you,

We the people of the United States, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

Thanks, you proved what a complete moron you are - there is a huge difference between theory and practice and if you don't know that, check into a mental hospital. Jump 200 years later and dear Ronald Reagan is standing on the steps of the Capitol saying "Government is the problem". Furthermore, this document does not state that the government is the a reflection of the will of the people at all times and occasions. In fact, your Founding Fathers guarded against such nonsense by making the government a rule of law rather than the will of men - knowing full well that democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding on what to have for dinner. A republic not a democracy, remember? However that also implies that the government is not the "people", and the "people" are not the government. The government is an interest group of its own enabled to protect the laws of the land, and without careful monitoring, it will extend its power to the detriment of the people. Basic political science. You obviously were asleep for that lesson.

RE: “Comrade Pat wants to save a culture by encourage the birthrate of those who are "culturally acceptable".

Please cite the page number for your assumption.

Read above. Don't deny it any more either unless you want to be painted as a liar.

RE: “Mindless platitudes. You haven't identified the mechanism that is going to sort out the "culturally acceptable" Americans from those who are not.

You want a mechanism? How about a well functioning INS? We can start the weeding out process with that British bastard with the exploding sneakers. Then we can jump to that lousy Frenchman currently in custody, known here as the 20th hijacker. From there we can work our way to sealing our borders and shipping every illegal alien back to whatever third world hell they came from...

Same INS that shipped Elian back, I see. Or were you in favour of handing him back into the hands of Fidel? Come what may, you are going to find that there will have to be some sort of sorting to get to the "American cultural" numbers. The fact that people are actually residing in the United States does not automatically make them part of those numbers. Ask your pals who complain about Mexicans coming over the border. I doubt even you lot would like to include all those computer experts from India and elsewhere who came on legal visas and are paying taxes as they are not "culturally American".

To recap - you are all of a sudden willing to trust the government, a government which is proven to be untrustworthy, which is an of itself an entity which operates without the consistent will of those it governs, with administering a process of sorting individuals into "American cultural" numbers with criteria you have not defined, merely because Pat to do so. If he served you cow excrement baked into a pie, would you eat it because he told you it was actually pumpkin?

Don't answer that, we all know the answer.

Ivan

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RE: To bolster "American cultural" numbers, Buchanan concludes in The Death of the West, American women should be encouraged via tax breaks to increase the country's population: "A free society cannot force women to have children, but a healthy society can reward those who preserve it by doing so."

Butt, butt,,,dear Ivan,,,,American women are already encouraged via tax breaks to have children. Don’t believe me? Grab an IRS Form 1040 and read it. The deduction for children is quite clear. Economics 101 taught my that tax incentivies increase wanted behavior. Perhaps your study of Riccardo and Smith were deficient, eh?

So, Buchanan wants to increase this deduction and limit it to Americans? Sounds very Republican to me. What a dreadful man this Buchanan...

RE: "American cultural" is in quotes from Buchanan's book. I even put it in bold for you.

So what’s your point. There IS an American culture. You agree, right?

RE: Jump 200 years later and dear Ronald Reagan is standing on the steps of the Capitol saying "Government is the problem". Furthermore, this document does not state that the government is the a reflection of the will of the people at all times and occasions.Herr Ivan:

Reagan was partially wrong. He should have said, “Government is the problem because we have allowed government to become the problem.” And it is this troubling "We the people" American concept of government that flies clean over your powered wig. Americans have allowed pigs like your eugenic adoring Churchill and the Fabian twit Blair to use our government (ie, our military) as a modern day version of your Hessians.

It is on this point that your knickers get knotted....

RE: “Same INS that shipped Elian back, I see. Or were you in favour of handing him back into the hands of Fidel?”

I did say a well functioning INS, correct. That would mean Elian would have remained in America, and Reid, the British Sneaker Bomber, would, this very minute, be shark bait...

Regards,
- Tull