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To: Jeff Gordon; Iowegian
Whosoever, therefore, knowing that the Catholic Church was made necessary by God through Jesus Christ, would refuse to enter her or to remain in her could not be saved.

There is a lot of wiggle room in this statement created by the word knowing. Certainly if one was never exposed to the RC teachings, one could not know. If were exposed (as might be the case for a Muslim) they may still not know in the sense that they do not believe.

Does this Vatican II fuzzy statement supercede the previous black and white statements?

Pick the weakest statement, and attack syntax and grammar. Which of the previous infallible statements most closely parallels this statement?

Can't tell from your argument whose side you're taking.

175 posted on 01/04/2002 9:14:15 AM PST by packrat01
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To: packrat01
Can't tell from your argument whose side you're taking.

I am not taking sides. I am trying to find out what the Catholic church currently teaches. I found a satisfactory answer at that web site I referred to in a previous message.

208 posted on 01/04/2002 10:17:41 PM PST by Jeff Gordon
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