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To: Bush2000
"...Buchanan's ideas are borrowed from the 19th century. We have already seen where such isolationism leads us (WWI, Pearl Harbor, etc), and it ain't pretty. Sad to say, the world does need a policeman. Our military is the only insulation that we have against tyranny...."

Splendid. Really, George Bush on his most inarticulate day couldn't have said it better, given that most of the truly great ideas in human history are borrowed from the past.

isolationismis a term borrowed from the British policy ofsplendid isolationfrom the troubles of the European continent. Although always practiced spottily and hypocritically, while it was practiced Britain could still place the "Great" in front of it's name without provoking howls of laughter.

I'll never understand why American so-called isolationists adopted that word. Whever words are imported from England, misunderstandings inevitably arise.

Anyway, when we tried to follow George Washington's advice--also spottily and hypocritically at times--more people in the world admired, even loved, us as a People and the concept of our country; the Vienamese, the Koreans, the Chinese, Africans, Indians, Arabs--people on the street all over the planet harbored no ill will towards us.

Our intervention in WWI led directly to the resumptions of hostilities in WWII. And Pearl Harbor was just one of many instances of collateral damage in the American Progressive's 100 year jihad to uplift the masses of the world with free markets and easily obtained birth control.

And yet, even then, the Elites still payed lip-service to our founding document and actually went through the ritual of a declaration of war. It's really astonishing how willing the American People have been to become mameluks for their progressive Elites--who despise them far worse than any foreign agressor. Fascinating. And depressing.

301 posted on 01/02/2002 9:09:31 AM PST by LaBelleDameSansMerci
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To: LaBelleDameSansMerci
Splendid. Really, George Bush on his most inarticulate day couldn't have said it better, given that most of the truly great ideas in human history are borrowed from the past.

Except we're not talking about "great ideas" here. We're talking about ideas that have resulted in massive tolls on human life and property.

I'll never understand why American so-called isolationists adopted that word. Whever words are imported from England, misunderstandings inevitably arise.

Regardless of the term's origin, it has come to mean ignoring international events -- wars, economic embargoes, tariffs, etc -- because they don't have immediate consequences to us.

Anyway, when we tried to follow George Washington's advice--also spottily and hypocritically at times--more people in the world admired, even loved, us as a People and the concept of our country; the Vienamese, the Koreans, the Chinese, Africans, Indians, Arabs--people on the street all over the planet harbored no ill will towards us.

All of those nations also weren't threatened by our trade prosperity. Likewise, as someone else pointed out on this thread, they weren't worried that we could deploy ships, planes, and tanks on their soil within a few hours. Your analogy has no relevance within the framework of the modern world.

Our intervention in WWI led directly to the resumptions of hostilities in WWII.

Wrong. WWII was caused by a failure to completely neuter Germany's munitions capabilities and ignoring it when it did happen.

And Pearl Harbor was just one of many instances of collateral damage in the American Progressive's 100 year jihad to uplift the masses of the world with free markets and easily obtained birth control.

That statement is positively one of the most ignorant things I've heard in a long time. It doesn't even deserve a response.

And yet, even then, the Elites still payed lip-service to our founding document and actually went through the ritual of a declaration of war. It's really astonishing how willing the American People have been to become mameluks for their progressive Elites--who despise them far worse than any foreign agressor. Fascinating. And depressing.

I'm beginning to suspect that your Prozac prescription has run out...
317 posted on 01/02/2002 9:17:11 AM PST by Bush2000
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