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To: GovernmentShrinker
DNA as biometric data fails in the case of twins.

You don't actually believe that a non-id database would actually get set up, do you? And the ATF isn't supposed to be making a list of gun owners either, but it is.

44 posted on 01/01/2002 1:24:11 PM PST by Mycroft Holmes
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To: Mycroft Holmes
DNA wouldn't fail in the case of identical twins, except in the extremely rare cases where one identical twin is a citizen and one isn't. At any rate, the "failure" in these rare cases would not infringe on the rights of the citizen twin, but rather give a free pass to the non-citizen twin, which is a risk I could live with. We aren't exactly going to be swamped with illegal aliens who have an identical twin who is a citizen.

As for the database, if no identifying information may be collected at the point of entry, how would it get in there? There would, of course, need to be a secure system for making entries into the database, but I think it's doable. There are only three ways of becoming a citizen: being born here, being born to an American citizen abroad, or being naturalized. Some sort of short-term card could be issued at hospitals and naturalization centers, authorizing the holder to be entered into the database within a short period (a few days).

As long as the entry process occurs in groups, personal information can't be attached to the biometric data -- e.g. you can show up at any entry center and surrender the card (which would contain minimal identifying information, like approximate age, gender, race, but no specific identifying information like a name) in order to get in and then go into a room for biometric entry 20, 30, 50 people at a time in random order, with no presentation of any personal information before putting in your biometric data. Some sort of non-identifying provision would need to made for infants, who would obviously have to be accompanied by an adult who would not necessarily be eligible for entry into the database -- perhaps upon surrendering the card, each person or guardian of an infant would be given a tag of some sort indicating whether the holder or an infant accompanied by the holder is eligible for entry.

The initial set-up of such a system would be a bureacratic nightmare, though no more so than for a national ID system which does include personal identification; but after that I think it would be very manageable.

49 posted on 01/01/2002 1:58:24 PM PST by GovernmentShrinker
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