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All I asked is for decency. That was it. You make it clear you have no decency for me. Okay. I got it. Thank you for your time.

All I asked is for decency. That was it. You make it clear you have no decency for me. Okay. I got it. Thank you for your time. 319 posted on 1/3/02 6:14 PM Pacific by JMJ333

I'm prepared to offer decency -- No profanity, No personal attacks, No racism or violence in posts.

What I am not prepared to offer is the renunciation of my position before debate has even begun.

Follow me through on this.

The Calvinist Faith requires of the Calvinist a religious duty to be intolerant of Communion with Apostasy in the Church of Christ.

Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. Be not ye therefore partakers with them.

And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

Now, the Biblical term for Communion with Apostasy is "spiritual fornication" (or "whoring after false gods").

Ezekiel 20: 29-31 -- Then I said unto them, What is the high place whereunto ye go? And the name whereof is called Bamah unto this day. Wherefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Are ye polluted after the manner of your fathers? and commit ye whoredom after their abominations? For when ye offer your gifts, when ye make your sons to pass through the fire, ye pollute yourselves with all your idols, even unto this day: and shall I be enquired of by you, O house of Israel? As I live, saith the Lord GOD, I will not be enquired of by you.

Now, this is a serious charge, so it should never be levelled lightly, of course.

But by the same token, it is the doctrine of the Bible, and as Calvinists, we are not permitted to be ashamed of the Bible. It's against our religion!!

Now, as concerns matters of state, anyone can worship any god they like. But as concerns the Church of Christ, if by "decency" you mean that you consider it indecent of Calvinists to execute our religious duty to maintain an "intolerant" attitude towards the worship of false gods in the Church of Christ, and insist that we enter the debate with a "tolerant" attitude towards the worship of false gods... you are denying us the right to uphold our position before we even enter the discussion.

In essence, your definition of "decency" is not one of "NO profanity, NO personal attacks, NO racism or violence in posts"... that knid of decency, Calvinists are cool with.

Your definition of "decency" is that we must enter the discussion with a "tolerant" attitude towards the worship of false gods in the Church, for "intolerance" towards the worship of false gods in the Church offends you.

As such, you do not deny the rectitude of our position;
Rather, you deny that we have a right to present our position.

All I asked is for decency. That was it. You make it clear you have no decency for me. Okay. I got it. Thank you for your time.

JMJ, we DISAGREE with you--AND VERY SERIOUSLY SO. We are genuinely CONCERNED about folks like you. We think you need to KNOW this. We think OTHERS need to know this, too.

Your insinuation that OrthodoxPresbyterian is mean-spirited is not appropriate. We are trying to be civil, but it would appear that that's not good enough for you.

Chill out, please.

OP wasn't being "personal" JMJ he was explaining how Calvinists handle sin and heresy . Remember I told you come over to a Calvinist thread to visit...they are upfront .