Addicted to the Drug War

Ludwig von Mises Institute ^ | December 28, 2001 | Ilana Mercer

[laredo44]

The most likely people to increase drug addiction would be ignorant children. You would be harming the children of America. They don't know anything and will think drugs are cool.

Drugs won't be legalized for children anymore than alcohol or tobacco are. Did you take drugs as a child? I didn't. Again, why such a low opinion of Americans?

[Zon]

Advogado, meet Roscoe and A CA Guy -- A CA Guy meet Advogado and Roscoe -- Roscoe, meet A CA Guy and Advogado.

Funny how the ones that hate the war on drugs the most end up saying some of the most violent and confrontational things.

161 posted on 12/28/01 11:13 AM Pacific by VA Advogado

 

I have no problem with Jack booted thugs when they're used against the right people. In this case, law breaking druggies are the right people. No mercy, no peas.

8 posted on 12/13/01 4:50 AM Pacific by VA Advogado

 

American twaddle. You're either with us or against us. You are clearly against us.

10 posted on 12/28/01 8:11 AM Pacific by VA Advogado

 

Ha, never. Its a lot easier to just crank up what we're doing now and keep you in the cross hairs. Give the BATF more effective tools, more money, more men and bigger bounties and we're there.

87 posted on 12/28/01 9:49 AM Pacific by VA Advogado

96 posted on 12/28/01 9:54 AM Pacific by VA Advogado

 

Championing his soul mates...

Cultural Jihad and Clamper are heros here. Some day, when you put down your dope and grow up you'll appreciate that this country is run by people like them.

145 posted on 12/28/01 10:55 AM Pacific by VA Advogado

The above was posted by Zon and below is the dialog that followed. All hyperlinks are active.

Being vague is not a lost art in your hands is it?

379 posted on 12/30/01 11:08 PM Pacific by A CA Guy

Being vague is not a lost art in your hands is it?

Don't worry the message will be clear for the intended audience.

403 posted on 12/30/01 11:39 PM Pacific by Zon

 

Are you part of the Taliban then? Man the FBI will be knocking on your door tonight. LOL

409 posted on 12/30/01 11:46 PM Pacific by A CA Guy

I'll just let you posts speak for themselves.

[Dosa26]

The most likely people to increase drug addiction would be ignorant children. You would be harming the children of America. They don't know anything and will think drugs are cool. A proud moment for you? I would hope not.

Interesting...it brings to mind a conversation that I had with a 16 year old neighbor-child some years ago. I asked him what he wanted to do with his life, how he planned to succeed. He said that he wanted to sell drugs so that he could drop out of school, make lots of money and not have to work.

[Zon]

War On Drugs Clock

[A CA Guy]

The problem of the black and white view you are pushing is that illegal drug use is evil. It does harm many innocents despite the way people attempt to re-dress it up here.

If we switched out rape, theft and fraud for illegal drug use the evil might kind of be more obvious to you, but for some reason drug addiction and ilegal drug consumption doesn't flash the EVIL sign for many here. The disease, death, violence and abuse of family and children associated with illegal drug use just fails to hit a moral tone for some here. Evil is still Evil no matter why you want to claim you want to do Evil.

Happy New Year to you as well!

[A CA Guy]

What would prevent the illegal consumption if it is legalized when we are making arrests when it is illegal with kids now. The kids will still be a big market for sales and use even if the drugs were legalized. Evil is evil L44.

[Roscoe]

Drugs won't be legalized for children anymore than alcohol or tobacco are.

Read the platform:

We call for repeal of all "children's codes" or statutes which abridge due process protections for young people.

[laredo44]

Yep, there are a lot of constitutional violations in the lawbooks.

Of all Roscoe's rant on the justification for drug laws, I like this one best.

(7) The United States is a party to the Single Convention on Narcotic Drugs, 1961, and other international conventions designed to establish effective control over international and domestic traffic in controlled substances. <

Yikes! Some Senate approved treaty will be used to justify the confiscation of guns, abolition of the death penalty and individual rights. This is satisfactory justification to prop up their rules. Pathetic.

[A CA Guy]

Some kids can murder and be turned to evil early due to illegal drug use and their providers. I agree with you. They are heavily pursued by gangs since they hardly ever go to adult prison. It is evil and all about the evil of recreational drugs. Correct.

[laredo44]

Stop making stuff up. It weakens, not strengthens any arguments you may have.

[A CA Guy]

They won't be legalized through children. They will get passed on to them by adults who are evil with easier access to drugs legally than ever.

Nope, never going to happen. Too much for America to lose. Mostly the country's soul. We are already suffering morality problems with abortion and don't need more problems.

[Roscoe]

Read it yourself.

http://www.lp.org/issues/platform/platform_print.html

[Hemlock]

Articles were provided over the last year by the pro-legalizing addiction crowd here at FR Hemlock.

Why would pro-legalizers post articles which claim that legalization will increase drug addiction? That's stupid.

I think you're full of beans.

After you get done finding one of those articles, maybe you'll answer this question:

Why was non-alcoholic drug addiction not as much of a social problem in the 19th Century when America was a more libertarian nation and hadn't outlawed such drugs as opium, morphine, cocaine and marijuana? Might factors other than legalization be responsible for the abuse of drugs?

[Roscoe]

Libertarians don't like "children's codes", ages of consent, things like that.

[A CA Guy]

A good start, but we need better money manangement.

[laredo44]

They won't be legalized through children. They will get passed on to them by adults who are evil with easier access to drugs legally than ever.

Some adults here in Connecticut let their kids ride bikes without helmets. How evil is that? Should we throw them in the lockup?

[A CA Guy]

Wow, based on the immigration and drug platform alone they are a loser as far as I am concerned.

The illegal immigration stance was shocking! Wow. I am truely surprised. Much more like liberals than conservatives.

[Roscoe]

Some adults here in Connecticut let their kids ride bikes without helmets.

On crack?

[Roscoe]

Why do you think they get so upset when I suggest that people read the platform? It's an embarrassment to them.

[Hemlock]

YOU: They don't know anything and will think drugs are cool.

ME: I've got news for you -- many of our children already think drugs are cool. The ones who think drugs are evil, or the more rational ones who think drugs shouldn't be abused, have gained their values from their families and communities (not because drugs are illegal).

YOU: Some kids can murder and be turned to evil early due to illegal drug use and their providers. I agree with you. They are heavily pursued by gangs since they hardly ever go to adult prison. It is evil and all about the evil of recreational drugs. Correct.

ME: Have you been taking drugs, or are you just a liar? Quit changing the subject. Your last post has nothing to do with my argument. Provide me with a rational argument and/or evidence which shows that illegalization lowers drug abuse, or conversely that legalization increases drug abuse.