Posted on 12/30/2001 1:25:13 AM PST by NoCurrentFreeperByThatName
American liberty. Whining, delusional ingrates.
I've not seen libertarians argue for the elimination of government.
That appears to have summed you up nicely.
The Marxists made a deal with the "people". They said, give us unlimited power and you just wait and see, we will cause the state to wither away.
Libertarians are not asking for unlimited power, we are only asking that the power of the feds be returned to approximately what it was in 1830.
How can you compare the two situations?
--- the purpose of FreeRepublic is not for the advocacy of drug legalization for the spoiled and jaded.
--- He was refuted by these words, at #76:
"And Libertarians are not druggies. Libertarians call for an end to the drug war. There is understandable logic behind this.
There is nothing in the U.S. Constitution that authorizes the federal government to wage war against the citizens of the United States, no matter how well-meaning the intent. The Bill of Rights means just as much today, as it did on the day it was written. And its protections are just as valid and just as important to freedom today, as they were to our Founders two hundred years ago. The danger of the drug war is that it erodes away those rights. Once the fourth amendment is meaningless, it's just that much easier to erode away the first and then the second, etc. Soon we'll have no rights at all.
Thanks, Jim Robinson
1 Posted on 05/09/2001 17:30:14 PDT by Jim Robinson
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I've seen no one argue that liberty means the right to do ANYTHING. You ideal is so vague as to mean nothing. Right to do what things? Who decides? You? The majority? That's not liberty, IMHO.
The law may limit the percieved liberties of some people such as illegal drug users because they may have little self restraint or personal responsibilty and might share a lack of moral understanding like a rapist or thief may.
Herein lies the jist of liberty. Taking a drug violates no others' right. Rape and theft require the violation of another's right.
OK, I know expect you again to duck the illegal drug user question! You know the one that reveals where your morals are at!
I appologize. I didn't understand your question, so I don't know how to reply. If you'll restate, I'll try.
Thank you for your idea of liberty even though we disagree. Others think it beneath them to describe that which they discuss.
Get out of my living room.
Marx said that? Gotta quote, or blowing smoke?
You ran from a discussion of the basis of such unconstitutional law, early in this thread. That you cannot deny.
Sorry, the congress is dead wrong in this statement. Where is the evidence? There is none. It is clear to all but the brain dead that prohibition, in all its forms has always been clearly detrimental to the health and welfare of all US Citizens.
We have tons of evidence that black markets and prohibition are bad, where is the evidence that freedom is bad?
"Dictatorship of the proletariat". Looks like the reason you appear to understand so little is that you understand so little.
The burden is on you.
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