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To: fortheDeclaration
you to CCWoody: No, I only take one 'hate Calvinism' pill a day (thats all I need). What Calvin got 'right' is far outweighed by what he got wrong i.e. Predestination.

Well, Arminius claimed that Calvin's Commentaries were, next to the Bible itself, the most worthy reading in all Christian history including the work of the early church fathers.

Perhaps Arminius, having been at Geneva and been a student of Beza, Calvin's colleague, knew something about Calvin's scholarship that you don't want to recognize because you reject the TULIP so vehemently. I personally think that many who dislike the TULIP doctrines fail to look at the Commentaries seriously. Arminius separated Calvin's excellent general Bible scholarship from his work in the Institutes. Maybe you should ask yourself why he did that. And you must be aware of the Textus Receptus bibles produced in the major European language at Geneva at that time, generally by Calvin's associates. The KJV translators drew upon the previous scholarship that had gathered in Calvin's Geneva.

I don't think a KJV supporter should throw quite so many stones at a man who was so instrumental in the history of the KJV and other sound Reformation bibles. You know, you never have a good word to say of Calvin's huge body of work and his influence in so many areas which has endured for centuries in both religious and political matters. He was a humble learned giant and subsequent history reveals he is the greater man when compared to Luther.
261 posted on 01/16/2002 4:52:52 AM PST by George W. Bush
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To: George W. Bush
I don't think a KJV supporter should throw quite so many stones at a man who was so instrumental in the history of the KJV and other sound Reformation bibles. You know, you never have a good word to say of Calvin's huge body of work and his influence in so many areas which has endured for centuries in both religious and political matters. He was a humble learned giant and subsequent history reveals he is the greater man when compared to Luther

He was wrong in his theological approach. Now, what Arminus stated about his commentaries is correct, because in them he stays with the scripture, even where it appears to go against his own theology.

In his Institutes he throws out the Scriptures in order to maintain a philosphical position at its expense. His adherence to Augustine (as well as the rest of the Reformers) kept the Reformation from moving as far as it should in the right direction.

As a Baptist, I have no use for either Augustine nor Calvin or any Reformer when they deviated from Scripture, which was far too often.

Even so, come Lord Jesus

284 posted on 01/16/2002 7:57:37 PM PST by fortheDeclaration
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