[CCWoody]

That depravity, however,is not total in the sense that the Calvinist maintain, that man is unable to respond to Illumnation from the Holy Spirit.

As a followup: You are really nothing more than a Pelagian who wants to lash out at those of us who happen to be right BTW. The problem with the church today is not that there are Calvinist disciples of Augustine in it but that the disciples of Pelagus are thriving. You don't like what we have to say precisely because we are correct.

You want to accuse us of changing the meaning of words like "all" when you are the ones guilty of the crime. Dead does not mean dead and "no not one" is really just God using hypoberlie. Why do you rage so against your Creator?

You need to learn what the Bible really teaches; that unless a man is born of God he cannot see the Kingdom of God. Man is born dead; he needs to be reborn. Man responds to the Holy Spirit alright:

You stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears! You always resist the Holy Spirit; as your fathers did, so do you.

Even so, come Lord Jesus!

[fortheDeclaration]

As a followup: You are really nothing more than a Pelagian who wants to lash out at those of us who happen to be right BTW. The problem with the church today is not that there are Calvinist disciples of Augustine in it but that the disciples of Pelagus are thriving. You don't like what we have to say precisely because we are correct. You want to accuse us of changing the meaning of words like "all" when you are the ones guilty of the crime. Dead does not mean dead and

If 'dead' means 'dead' how these 'dead' people still manage to talk, walk, eat, make decisions etc. Man is still a person which has intellectSensiblity and will. Now the Fall made man unable to reach God but God can still reach man and give him a choice

"no not one" is really just God using hypoberlie. Why do you rage so against your Creator?

I do not rage against my Creator, why do you blaspheme Him with your attacks on His essence with your vile, God-dishonoring TULIP

You need to learn what the Bible really teaches; that unless a man is born of God he cannot see the Kingdom of God. Man is born dead; he needs to be reborn. Man responds to the Holy Spirit alright:

Granted, he needs to be 'born again' but that is a decision he must make, to receive the free gift of eternal life (Jn.1:12).

Also, you guys never deal with 'all' and 'whosoever'

You stiff-necked and uncircumcised in heart and ears! You always resist the Holy Spirit; as your fathers did, so do you.

Woody! Don't you know that no Calvinist believes you can resist God! Thats (gasp!)Free Will

Even so, come Lord Jesus!

Hey, look at that something I can Amen you for!