[eastforker]

Been there,done that.There is realy nothing you can do physicaly.Since talking does no good,let him know you are there for him spiritualy,that when he decides to change his ways you will try to help him. And if he ever asks for help,"sign he wants to change" then give him help.

[maranatha]

I know you're doing all you can and having all these believers praying for you and your family is powerful and will have an effect. Never give up.

eastforker, I really pray things are better with your son.