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The Myth Of The Palestinian People
Israel National News ^ | 26 December 2001 | Yehezkel Bin-Nun

Posted on 12/26/2001 7:05:20 PM PST by Optimist

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To: Old Hickory
See, it's a brand new day in America.

Really? The only "brand new day" I see is one where the American people are, perhaps for the first time, aware of the bloodthirsty nature of "some" Arabs. No thanks to the liberal media.

I would venture to guess that those in the "fly-over states" will start asking more questions about what exactly the history of Palestine and Israel is. They will ask about the Balfour Declaration. They will ask about the British role. The will ask "what is Zionism?" for the perhaps the first time in some long-forgotten Walmart parking lot in middle-America.

I think your guess is wrong since I don't see much evidence of this happening. Perhaps it is wishful thinking on your part.

Thus, in the great op-ed pieces of "major" newspapers in the US, and on chat rooms like this... the race is on to MARGINALIZE the people of Palestine.

Maybe they should be marginalized. Since, as a people, they do not really exist lacking the four elements that define a people, i.e., language, religion, culture, and cuisine.

PS I have no dog in the fight. But...I watch the watchers.

Please.....Unless you can provide a reference of your posting something about Arab/"Palestinian" propaganda, don't waste bandwidth on these feeble declarations of your "fairness" or "impartiality". I'm not accusing you of taking sides or bias, so why do you feel it's necessary to tell me you're "watching the watchers"?

61 posted on 12/27/2001 2:22:16 PM PST by BenF
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To: Optimist
1. Nationhood and Jerusalem ... Israel became a nation in 1312 BCE.C.E., two thousand years before the rise of Islam.

2. Arab refugees in Israel began identifying themselves as part of a Palestinian people in 1967, two decades after the establishment of the modern State of Israel.

3. Since the Jewish conquest in 1272 B.C.E. the Jews have had dominion over the land for one thousand years with a continuous presence in the land for the past 3,300 years.

4. The only Arab dominion since the conquest in 635 C.E. lasted no more than 22 years.

5. For over 3,300 years, Jerusalem has been the Jewish capital. Jerusalem has never been the capital of any Arab or Muslim entity. Even when the Jordanians occupied Jerusalem, they never sought to make it their capital, and Arab leaders did not come to visit.

6. Jerusalem is mentioned over 700 times in Tanach, the Jewish Holy Scriptures. Jerusalem is not mentioned once in the Koran.

7. King David founded the city of Jerusalem. Mohammed never came to Jerusalem.

8. Jews pray facing Jerusalem. Muslims pray with their backs toward Jerusalem.

9. Arab and Jewish refugees in 1948 the Arab refugees were encouraged to leave Israel by Arab leaders promising to purge the land of Jews sixty-eight percent left without ever seeing an Israeli soldier!

10. The Jewish refugees were forced to flee from Arab lands due to Arab brutality, persecution and pogroms.

11. The number of Arab refugees who left Israel in 1948 is estimated to be around 630,000. The number of Jewish refugees from Arab lands is estimated to be the same.

12. Arab refugees were INTENTIONALLY not absorbed or integrated into the Arab lands to which they fled, despite the vast Arab territory. Out of the 100,000 refugees since World War II, theirs is the only refugee group in the world that has never been absorbed or integrated into their own peoples' lands. Jewish refugees were completely absorbed into Israel, a country no larger than the state of New Jersey.

13. The Arab - Israeli Conflict; The Arabs are represented by eight separate nations, not including the Palestinians. There is only one 'Jewish' nation. The Arab nations initiated all five wars and lost. Israel defended itself each time and won.

14. The PLO's Charter still calls for the destruction of the State of Israel. Israel has given the Palestinians most of the West Bank land, autonomy under the Palestinian Authority, and has supplied them with weapons.

15. Under Jordanian rule, Jewish holy sites were desecrated and the Jews were denied access to places of worship. Under Israeli rule, all Muslim and Christian sites have been preserved and made accessible to people of all faiths.

16. The UN Record on Israel and the Arabs of the 175 Security Council resolutions passed before 1990, 97 were directed against Israel.

17. Of the 690 General Assembly resolutions voted on before 1990, 429 were directed against Israel.

18. The UN was silent while the Jordanians destroyed 58 Jerusalem Synagogues.

19. The UN was silent while the Jordanians systematically desecrated the ancient Jewish cemetery on the Mount of Olives.

20. The UN was silent while the Jordanians enforced an apartheid-like policy of preventing Jews from visiting the Temple Mount and the Western Wall.

62 posted on 12/27/2001 2:25:31 PM PST by 68 grunt
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To: EternalVigilance
Wail your tune for me, but it won't change anything.
63 posted on 12/27/2001 2:27:54 PM PST by RLK
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To: EternalVigilance
Read a little history. The leadership of the Muslims before and during the war was viciously anti-semitic. The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem was a Nazi collaborator to the max...

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Why should the Grand Mufti have supported a political axis he knew was attempting to eventually impose a foreign religious state upon him? Do you expect to make bargains about the course of other people's lives and not to be hated?

64 posted on 12/27/2001 2:32:59 PM PST by RLK
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To: RLK
Wail your tune for me, but it won't change anything.

That says far more about you than it does about me.

65 posted on 12/27/2001 2:40:48 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: RLK
Why should the Grand Mufti have supported a political axis he knew was attempting to eventually impose a foreign religious state upon him? Do you expect to make bargains about the course of other people's lives and not to be hated?

Huh??

The historical fact is that the Grand Mufti, and the Arabs in general, were virilent anti-semites, and allied politically with Hitler and the Nazis.

Hitler and his German racist regime are long dead and gone, but the same animalistic ideology lives on amongst the Islamists.

66 posted on 12/27/2001 2:44:27 PM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: College Repub
Well, look. The original "Palestine" mandate covered the land that is now Jordan and Israel.

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Who decided the British, the Leage of Nations, or anybody else could come in and partitian land with a mandate, or create nations with a mandate? Suppose people already there don't recognize that right?

Suppose America were conquered and administered by France and Holland. Further suppose that they decided to take the states of Illinois, Missouri, Indiana, and Iowa and "mandate" them to the black muslims, encourage African immigration into those states, then recognize it as a separate nation. Also suppose you had been living there and were declared a minority citizen subject to the laws of that nation. How happy and peaceful do you think you would be? If a war occurred between France, or Holland, and anybody else, who do you think you would support?

68 posted on 12/29/2001 12:06:59 AM PST by RLK
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To: EternalVigilance
See the above.
69 posted on 12/29/2001 12:07:03 AM PST by RLK
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To: RLK
You're living in fantasy land.
70 posted on 12/29/2001 12:07:07 AM PST by EternalVigilance
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To: RLK
Becuase the British won control over that land as a result of WWI. Wars happen. People win and lose things.
71 posted on 12/29/2001 12:07:15 AM PST by College Repub
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To: Old Hickory
Do you deny, then, the fact that the Palestinians never had any Palestinian nation? Do you have any other evidence to refute this article?

Your insistence on using the term "Zionist" is telling, to say the least.

72 posted on 12/29/2001 12:07:22 AM PST by rdb3
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To: BenF
I'm not accusing you of taking sides or bias, so why do you feel it's necessary to tell me you're "watching the watchers"?

Zing! I guess it's true that the wicked flee when no one pursues.

73 posted on 12/29/2001 12:07:32 AM PST by rdb3
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To: College Repub
So the British imposed a mandate through war and conquest. Now some of the people affected by that mandate want to reverse it through the same respected process.
74 posted on 12/29/2001 12:08:17 AM PST by RLK
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To: rdb3
Your insistence on using the term "Zionist" is telling, to say the least.

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You are right. It says the least. It's a term that has been used by some Jews, and appears in the bible. It identifies a movement and a point of view. It's not a slur.

75 posted on 12/29/2001 12:08:17 AM PST by RLK
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To: RLK
No, they want to reverse it by driving the Jews into the sea. Let them attack, we'll see who wins!
76 posted on 12/29/2001 12:08:18 AM PST by College Repub
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To: rdb3
Do you deny, then, the fact that the Palestinians never had any Palestinian nation? Do you have any other evidence to refute this article?

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What I know is that according to the sources sited in 1946 there were676,000 Jews and 1,269,000 Arabs living in the land we now call Israel. In 1948 the Jews imposed their nation upon those 1,269,000 Arabs against their will. Hardly what one would call democracy. Whether you want to play with words to disinfranchise those 1,269,000 people by calling them non-palestinians is up to you. Those 1,269,000 think they got screwed, and that the U. S. was in on it. Part of the consequence was the 9/11 bombing in revenge.

77 posted on 12/29/2001 12:08:19 AM PST by RLK
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To: RLK
You leave out the part where Arabs evict 800,000 Jews.
78 posted on 12/29/2001 12:08:20 AM PST by dennisw
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To: RLK
You are wrong on your numbers because they are for all of "Palestine". West Bank etc. including Trans Jordan. 90% of Jews lived in WESTERN Palestine. Pretty much today's Israel. The numbers were much more skewed to Jews for JUST THIS area.
79 posted on 12/29/2001 12:08:21 AM PST by dennisw
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To: RLK
Who decided the British, the Leage of Nations, or anybody else could come in and partitian land with a mandate, or create nations with a mandate? Suppose people already there don't recognize that right?

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43% of Israelis are Jews who were evicted from Arab nations. Where are these Jews supposed to live? Today they live free in Israel. Not under Mulsim domination in rathole Arab nations.

80 posted on 12/29/2001 12:08:21 AM PST by dennisw
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