The Myth Of The Palestinian People

Israel National News ^ | 26 December 2001 | Yehezkel Bin-Nun

[Optimist]

Why do I even start these things? ;-)

[RaceBannon]

Because many here need to read this!!!

[RLK]

The Myth Of The Palestinian People

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An excellent and polished piece of writing. However, the Pa;estinians aren't going to believe it. Neither is anyone else with a knowledge of history. In 1945 there were two people of arabic descent living in Palestine for every Jew. Vall these people what you want, but they sure as hell weren't Puerto Ricans. In about 1920 the Jewish population was about 15% or less as recognized by the Jews. This is an admission that there were other people in the area.

[BrooklynGOP]

Bump!

[BrooklynGOP]

Because you are an Optimist :)

[NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh]

And because you are 100% right.

[Frances_Marion]

BTTT

[Dallas]

Bedowins were not residents of Palestine.

So your equation doesn't apply.

[garbanzo]

It's always amazing for me to note that for almost every Israel-basher the history of the world begins after 1967.

[Inyokern]

To portray themselves as indigenous, Arab settlers adopted the name of an ancient Canaanite tribe, the Phillistines, that died out almost 3000 years ago.

The Philistines were not Canaanite. They came from Greece. They were European invaders.

[dennisw]

Look to the year 1870 when the Zionists started coming in numbers. Palestine was desolate and under populated. The part of Palestine that these Jews settled is pretty much the Israel of today. Maybe 200,000 Muslims lived there. 

These Zionists came to an empty, underdeveloped land. As the Jews came so did the Arabs. These "Palestinians" are mostly immigrants just like the Jews. They came from other Arab area of the MidEast, pulled in by the projects of the Jewish immigrants. Who bought cheap swamp land and drained and developed it. Jews bought marginal land and made something of it that the backward Arabs could not.

[Celtjew Libertarian]

Bump to read when awake.

[Neophyte]

Call these people what you want, but they sure as hell weren't Puerto Ricans.

There are places in the US where in recent years Puerto Ricans came to outnumber native Americans approximately by the same rate as (in 1915) Arab settlers came to outnumber Jews in the Land of Israel.

Does it make Puerto Ricans "indigenous" for these places and does it entitle them to a sovereign state there?

[RLK]

Jews bought marginal land and made something of it that the backward Arabs could not.

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That, is absolutely true. The rest is in error according to prerevisionost Jewish history.

[Optimist]

An interesting line to pull....

Jews bought marginal land

[Optimist]

As i read the article, it makes no case for the presence or lack of Jewish settlers, but rather the lack of an indigeneous population (aka as "the Palestinians"). Israel has claimed an historical presence to which they are returning to claim.
Palestinian groups, however, claim to be indigenous which this article refutes with census and first-hand independent accounts.

Although I have seen many cases on freeper threads for the historical right to this land by "Palestinians", that is not their primary claim (at least until they have desecrated all non-muslim religious sites by building on top of them to create a new history)
(sorrow about the flamunition)

[Kryptonite]

The whole Palestine gimmick is a load of CRAP. The Arabs were so confident that they would overrun Israel that they told the Arabs settlers to get out so they could destroy the Jews and then move back in. Didn't happen. Instead, the Israelis fended off attacks from the Egyptians and Syrians and won (this is a concept the mythites never seem to grasp). Then, the "refugees" -- another huge myth -- were left to fend for themselves without a dime of support from any Muslim nation for decades.

I honestly believe that very, very few intelligent, moral people have any genuine sympathy for the mythite cause -- instead, the cause has been hijacked solely for political purposes, rather than out of genuine concern over any unfair plight of those out of power in Israel.

[TheOtherOne]

Thanks for posting. It is an interesting article.

[Scythian]

It is interesting to note that the Bible makes reference to a fictitious nation confronting Israel. “They have provoked me to jealously by worshipping a non-god, angered me with their vanities. I will provoke them with a non-nation; anger them with a foolish nation (Deuteronomy 32:21).”

NIV
They made me jealous by what is no god and angered me with their worthless idols. I will make them envious by those who are not a people; I will make them angry by a nation that has no understanding.

NASB
They have made Me jealous with what is not God; They have provoked Me to anger with their idols. So I will make them jealous with those who are not a people; I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation,

KJV
They have moved me to jealousy with that which is not God; they have provoked me to anger with their vanities: and I will move them to jealousy with those which are not a people; I will provoke them to anger with a foolish nation.

I was stunned by this verse when I saw your post, especially the non-nation part, most translation states "those who are not a people". Still, a jumping off point for a bible study for sure ...

[Optimist]

According to the Masoretic text:

...I will provoke them with a vile nation