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To: Deep_6
So, basically, you're saying that lawlessness and disregard for the duly enacted statutes of the United States and the Several States, are just part of doing business in America. Not only should the aliens break the law by coming here in the first place, the people hiring them should break not only the laws against hiring them, but also the minimum wage laws, the state and federal fair employment practices laws, and a bevy of other laws and regulations, just for the sake of business expediency and "lower prices."

Wow, that's just grrrreat.

32 posted on 12/27/2001 11:26:39 AM PST by mvpel
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To: mvpel
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"...So, basically, you're saying that lawlessness and disregard for the duly enacted statutes of the United States and the Several States, are just part of doing business in America. Not only should the aliens break the law by coming here in the first place, the people hiring them should break not only the laws against hiring them, but also the minimum wage laws, the state and federal fair employment practices laws, and a bevy of other laws and regulations, just for the sake of business expediency and lower prices......"

Awwww crap.

No, actually we were into two different themes and as two other
posters remarked, one has little to do with the other.

First.... In my opinion, we need immigration. But we need it in a
more legal atmosphere. Let 'em work here as an alien, but do so
with our knowing they're here.

Second..... As long as we have too many illegal aliens here now
and no way to locate them, the idea of using a driver's license
application to identify them sounded reasonable.

Our immigration and nationalization services and policies need
revamping. We created a bureaucratic monster that serves
no useful purpose, other than to send Cuban kids back to Cuba. 

In my afterthoughts, and in response to another poster's noting
that the damned driver's licenses are being used as valid IDs for
voting, etc... well... -that- has got to stop. We should not be allowing
the use of a driver's license to be a validating document for voting
privileges. Nor should it be used as a validating document for any
legal endeavor, aside from driving in the state it's issued.

Third.... No alien should be entitled to collect benefits from programs
designed for citizens exclusively. They are entitled to "legal due process"
in our system of jurisprudence, but not welfare benefits, unemployment
benefits, health benefits, etc. that are funded with the taxation of American
citizens.

That is not to say we should  turn our backs to those in need [that just
happen to be temporarily on our soil], but it should never be extended
beyond a reasonable amount of time. That is, we should offer assistance
to those unable to function [health reasons, etc], until the individual[s] |
can either become citizens, leave or be properly removed.

We should be a Nation of caring; giving, but we should not be a doormat
for those that seek only to take advantage [illegal alien, citizen, or
otherwise]. We gain more from teaching a trade, than giving away it's
product. [you need shoes? here's how to make them]

The issue [and topic] was: Should we offer driver's licenses to illegal
aliens. And to that, I would suggest it as a way to locate those that
are here illegally. But we must stop using the license for any reason
beyond identifying a state's permission for an individual to drive in
that state. It's only a "driving ability qualifier" and any other use as
any sort of "qualifier" should be forbidden.

Howzatt?

 

 

33 posted on 12/27/2001 3:01:36 PM PST by Deep_6
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