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To: Bold Fenian
The Vatican and the Orthodox churches in Jerusalem have stated repeatedly since 1967 that the Israeli occupation of the West Bank and Gaza is wrong and that Jerusalem should be governed as an open, international city.

Did they state repeatedly since 1948 that the Jordanian occupation of the West Bank and Gaza is wrong and that Jerusalem should be governed as an open, international city ?

As for that last line of Swahili you quoted, you'll have to translate it into American English.

Ha-Ruach Ha-Kodesh is Hebrew for the Holy Spirit.

60 posted on 12/23/2001 9:37:59 AM PST by a_witness
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To: a_witness; God_isa_Jew; Thinkin' Gal; Lent
According to Rabbi Moshe Shapiro, shlita (Jerusalem), an authority in both revealed and concealed matters of Torah, there is a tradition that Yishmael will be the final extension of Golus Edom, the Roman Exile, and that it will be with his descendants that the final generation of Jews before the redemption will have to contend. This is also supported by the following Midrash:

Israel will say to the king of the Arabs, "Take silver and gold and leave the Temple." The king of the Arabs will say, "You have nothing to do with this Temple. *However, if you want, choose a sacrifice as you did in the past, and we will also offer a sacrifice, and, with the one whose sacrifice is accepted, we will all become one people." The Jewish people will offer theirs, but it will not be accepted because the Satan will lay charges against them before The Holy One, Blessed is He. B'nei Keder will offer theirs, and it will be accepted ... At that time, the Arabs will say to Israel, "Come and belief in our faith," but Israel will answer, "We will kill or be killed, but we will not deny our Belief!" At that time, swords will be drawn, bows will be strung and arrows will be sent, and many will fall ... (Sefer Eliyahu, Pirkei Moshiach, p. 236)

Furthermore, says the Zohar:
Many camps will arise in Land of the Galil (in Techiyas HaMeisim), because that is where the Moshiach is going to be revealed, since it is part of Yosef's territory. It will be the first place to be destroyed. It will begin there ahead of all other places, and then spread to the nations ... (Zohar, Vayakhel 220a)

When the latest Intifadah began at the beginning of 5761, one of the first places to be destroyed was Kever Yosef-the burial place of Yosef. The animalistic destruction of the Jewish holy place caught world attention, though the damage could not be reversed.

Furthermore, more recently, we witnessed the Muslim world's vicious attempt to enlist the world in their war against the Israeli people by making it a war against the "Jewish" people. What began as an anti-Israel campaign ended as an anti-Semite campaign, and the Anti-Racism conference in Durban, South Africa became a struggle to declare Zionism a racist ideology, at the insistent of the entire Muslim world.

It is interesting to note that the only place in the entire Sefer Torah where the four letters, dalet-raish-bais-nun, the Hebrew transliteration of "Durban" appear (albeit in reverse) is in Parashas Lech-Lecha (16:14), the parshah of Eretz Yisroel and the Jewish bond to the land. They are the last four letters of the verse that speaks of the miraculous salvation of Hagar, the mother of Yishmael, from certain death. The very next posuk speaks of Yishmael's birth itself!

If B'nei Yishmael are not yet Magog, then they must not be too far away from being so.

APPROACHING THE THRESHOLD
Current Events In Light Of The Past

The king of the Arabs will say, "You have nothing to do with this Temple. *However, if you want, choose a sacrifice as you did in the past, and we will also offer a sacrifice, and, with the one whose sacrifice is accepted, we will all become one people."

Revelation 13
13 He performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men. 14 And he deceives those who dwell on the earth by those signs which he was granted to do in the sight of the beast, telling those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the beast who was wounded by the sword and lived.

1 Kings 18
Elijah's Mount Carmel Victory
20 So Ahab sent for all the children of Israel, and gathered the prophets together on Mount Carmel. 21And Elijah came to all the people, and said, "How long will you falter between two opinions? If the LORD is God, follow Him; but if Baal, follow him." But the people answered him not a word. 22Then Elijah said to the people, "I alone am left a prophet of the LORD; but Baal's prophets are four hundred and fifty men. 23Therefore let them give us two bulls; and let them choose one bull for themselves, cut it in pieces, and lay it on the wood, but put no fire under it; and I will prepare the other bull, and lay it on the wood, but put no fire under it. 24Then you call on the name of your gods, and I will call on the name of the LORD; and the God who answers by fire, He is God."
So all the people answered and said, "It is well spoken."
25Now Elijah said to the prophets of Baal, "Choose one bull for yourselves and prepare it first, for you are many; and call on the name of your god, but put no fire under it."
26So they took the bull which was given them, and they prepared it, and called on the name of Baal from morning even till noon, saying, "O Baal, hear us!" But there was no voice; no one answered. Then they leaped about the altar which they had made.
27And so it was, at noon, that Elijah mocked them and said, "Cry aloud, for he is a god; either he is meditating, or he is busy, or he is on a journey, or perhaps he is sleeping and must be awakened." 28So they cried aloud, and cut themselves, as was their custom, with knives and lances, until the blood gushed out on them. 29And when midday was past, they prophesied until the time of the offering of the evening sacrifice. But there was no voice; no one answered, no one paid attention.
30Then Elijah said to all the people, "Come near to me." So all the people came near to him. And he repaired the altar of the LORD that was broken down. 31And Elijah took twelve stones, according to the number of the tribes of the sons of Jacob, to whom the word of the LORD had come, saying, "Israel shall be your name." 32Then with the stones he built an altar in the name of the LORD; and he made a trench around the altar large enough to hold two seahs of seed. 33And he put the wood in order, cut the bull in pieces, and laid it on the wood, and said, "Fill four waterpots with water, and pour it on the burnt sacrifice and on the wood." 34Then he said, "Do it a second time," and they did it a second time; and he said, "Do it a third time," and they did it a third time. 35So the water ran all around the altar; and he also filled the trench with water.
36And it came to pass, at the time of the offering of the evening sacrifice, that Elijah the prophet came near and said, "LORD God of Abraham, Isaac, and Israel, let it be known this day that You are God in Israel and I am Your servant, and that I have done all these things at Your word. 37Hear me, O LORD, hear me, that this people may know that You are the LORD God, and that You have turned their hearts back to You again."
38Then the fire of the LORD fell and consumed the burnt sacrifice, and the wood and the stones and the dust, and it licked up the water that was in the trench. 39Now when all the people saw it, they fell on their faces; and they said, "The LORD, He is God! The LORD, He is God!"
40And Elijah said to them, "Seize the prophets of Baal! Do not let one of them escape!" So they seized them; and Elijah brought them down to the Brook Kishon and executed them there.


Goy vey!

61 posted on 12/23/2001 7:08:51 PM PST by Jeremiah Jr
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