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To: Black Jade,BlueDogDemo,Wallaby,flamefront,ratcat,roughrider,Uncle Bill,aristeides,Fred Mertz,righ
Another quote from the article excerpt you posted in reply #9:

"Richard Tomlinson, a former employee of the U.K. intelligence service MI6, told the FAZ that a terrorist organization large enough to pull off Tuesday's attack should have been obvious to secret services. Tomlinson spoke of an "obvious total failure" of intelligence, the paper said."

This was NOT a failure to gather and analyze intelligence IMO.

It was either a failure to communicate intelligence to and/or receive intelligence by the decision makers OR the decision makers (Bush,Blair,etc)got the information and were either incompetent (politically correct socialist thinking and protect the Saudi business deals?) or they let it happen on purpose to unite the world in a war on terrorism, a world which they did not think would go along unless there were a cataclismic event like 9/11 (Pearl Harbor/Roosevelt scenario).

11 posted on 12/23/2001 8:49:23 PM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: It'salmosttolate
See reply #11
12 posted on 12/23/2001 8:50:23 PM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: Black Jade,BlueDogDemo,Wallaby,flamefront,ratcat,roughrider,Uncle Bill,aristeides,Fred Mertz,righ
The article below is another proof of my statement in reply #11 -"This was NOT a failure to gather and analyze intelligence IMO."

CIA Paid Afghans To Track Bin Laden - For 4 Years

Government

Source: Washington Post

Published: December 23, 2001 Author: Bob Woodward

Posted on 12/23/01 9:51 PM Pacific by ratcat

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/fr/596136/posts

14 posted on 12/23/2001 9:08:12 PM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: OKCSubmariner
or they let it happen on purpose to unite the world in a war on terrorism, a world which they did not think would go along unless there were a cataclismic event like 9/11 (Pearl Harbor/Roosevelt scenario).

To unite the world under a global government. That's the whole purpose of the CIA-enabled, US-trained terrorists.

20 posted on 12/23/2001 9:48:40 PM PST by ratcat
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To: OKCSubmariner
BTTT
32 posted on 12/24/2001 2:42:09 PM PST by ChaseR
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To: OKCSubmariner;It'salmosttolate;woofie;Uncle Bill...
This was NOT a failure to gather and analyze intelligence

You bet there was no "failure to gather and analyze intelligence"! The CIA has obviously been in touch with Al Qaeda operatives for years in planning joint CIA-Bin Laden operations in the Balkans. The Clinton and the Bush administrations made a strategic decision to "make a pact with the devil," then naturally they will play innocent and say "Gee, we just couldn't find Bin Laden."

According to http://globalresearch.ca/articles/DCH109A.html:"Perhaps most threatening to the SFOR mission - and more importantly, to the safety of the American personnel serving in Bosnia - is the unwillingness of the Clinton Administration to come clean with the Congress and with the American people about its complicity in the delivery of weapons from Iran to the Muslim government in Sarajevo. That policy, personally approved by Bill Clinton in April 1994 at the urging of CIA Director-designate (and then-NSC chief) Anthony Lake and the U.S. ambassador to Croatia Peter Galbraith, has, according to the Los Angeles Times (citing classified intelligence community sources), 'played a central role in the dramatic increase in Iranian influence in Bosnia.' Further, according to the Times, in September 1995 National Security Agency analysts contradicted Clinton Administration claims of declining Iranian influence, insisting instead that 'Iranian Revolutionary Guard personnel remain active throughout Bosnia.' Likewise, 'CIA analysts noted that the Iranian presence was expanding last fall,' with some ostensible cultural and humanitarian activities 'known to be fronts' for the Revolutionary Guard and Iran's intelligence service, known as VEVAK, the Islamic revolutionary successor to the Shah's SAVAK. [[LAT, 12/31/96] .....
For example, one such group about which details have come to light is the Third World Relief Agency (TWRA), a Sudan-based, phoney humanitarian organization which has been a major link in the arms pipeline to Bosnia. ["How Bosnia's Muslims Dodged Arms Embargo: Relief Agency Brokered Aid From Nations, Radical Groups," Washington Post, 9/22/96; see also "Saudis Funded Weapons For Bosnia, Official Says: $ 300 Million Program Had U.S. 'Stealth Cooperation'," Washington Post, 2/2/96] TWA is believed to be connected with such fixtures of the Islamic terror network as Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman (the convicted mastermind behind the 1993 World Trade Center bombing) and Osama Binladen, a wealthy Saudi emigre believed to bankroll numerous militant groups. [WP, 9/22/96]"

More on the Rahman story: THE CIA AND THE SHEIK [Omar Abdel Rahman]:< THE CIA AND THE SHEIK [Omar Abdel Rahman]:"'It was no accident that the sheikh got a visa and that he's still in the country,' replied the agent, visibly upset. 'He's here under the banner of national security, the State Department, the NSA [National Security Agency], and the CIA.' The agent pointed out that the sheikh had been granted a tourist visa, and later a green card, despite the fact that he was on a State Department terrorist watch-list that should have barred him from the country. He's an untouchable, concluded the agent."

http://globalresearch.ca/articles/MNA110A.html:"Skopje, 26 September: Daily Vecer read on the relation between the members of the so-called ONA National Liberation Army, UCK in Albanian and the Number One world's terrorist - Usamah Bin-Ladin. The writings were supported with photos that clearly showed that the Mojahedin are fighting in the 'ONA' [National Liberation Army] lines....
Dnevnik and Nova Makedonija also focus on the financial relations among the terrorist organizations in the Balkans such as the 'disbanded' KLA Kosovo Liberation Army, UCK in Albanian from Kosovo, amnestied OVPMB (Liberation Army of Presevo, Medvedja and Bujanovac) from southern Serbia and the intelligence connections between the terrorist groups acting in Macedonia and Usamah Bin-Ladin's organization Al-Qa'idah.
Dnevnik reports the text published in the British daily Times claiming that Bin-Ladin and KLA have a 'joint' cash box in the United States. There is information that Bin-Ladin's collaborators raise money through an organization allegedly for the Albanian refugees after the Kosovo crisis. The raised money is then allocated to Bin-Ladin's terrorists, but also to KLA fighters. Some of the men in KLA are trained in the camps led by Bin-Ladin.
The Times does not state the name of the organization, but it is obvious that it is a "humanitarian organization" acting in the mosques and Muslim cultural centres in the United States. Under the veil that money for 'Kosovo's refugees' or 'Afghanistan's children' is being raised, the organization accumulates large amounts of dollars. This is not additional expenditure for the Muslims that live in the United States, as according to the American laws the persons that support the humanitarian organizations have tax reliefs, so the Muslims working in the United States are stimulated to give money in the organization. Some of money is won back directly from the American budget through the tax reliefs. The raised money is used for buying weapons.
The Times stresses that some of these organizations were established under CIA's auspices in the time when the American intelligence agency supported the Afghanistan Islamists in the fight against the Soviet Union. But even when the Russian Army withdrew from Afghanistan they continued to raise money.
Money for the KLA was raised in a similar manner, under US auspices, as that helped to oust Slobodan Milosevic's regime in Yugoslavia."

Is anyone shocked by this revelation? Prince Turki has been a go-between with the Bin Laden network and the CIA for over two decades. He also showed up at this Dubai hospital. CIA agent alleged to have met Bin Laden in July-- French report claims terrorist leader stayed in Dubai hospital "Two months before September 11 Osama bin Laden flew to Dubai for 10 days for treatment at the American hospital, where he was visited by the local CIA agent, according to the French newspaper Le Figaro. The disclosures are known to come from French intelligence which is keen to reveal the ambiguous role of the CIA, and to restrain Washington from extending the war to Iraq and elsewhere.
Bin Laden is reported to have arrived in Dubai on July 4 from Quetta in Pakistan with his own personal doctor, nurse and four bodyguards, to be treated in the urology department. While there he was visited by several members of his family and Saudi personalities, and the CIA.
The CIA chief was seen in the lift, on his way to see Bin Laden, and later, it is alleged, boasted to friends about his contact. He was recalled to Washington soon afterwards.
Intelligence sources say that another CIA agent was also present; and that Bin Laden was also visited by Prince Turki al Faisal, then head of Saudi intelligence, who had long had links with the Taliban, and Bin Laden. Soon afterwards Turki resigned, and more recently he has publicly attacked him in an open letter: 'You are a rotten seed, like the son of Noah'".

33 posted on 12/25/2001 3:15:01 AM PST by Black Jade
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