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Poll: IF, and this is a BIG if...

Posted on 12/21/2001 6:52:48 PM PST by LSUsoph

Dick Cheney due to health reasons decides to withdrawl his name from the ticket in 2004 after a very successful term as Vice President. He figures he can still stay close to the President and advise him in any way possible, but not have to deal with the every day hustle of being the Vice-President of the country. So who would President Bush pick to be his new VP? I think Condi Rice would be a wonderful choice but I dont know if this country (especially the Republican Party) is ready for a VP who is black, a woman, and from the South (Alabama). I also love Powell but would he and Pres Bush be able to work hand in hand as P-VP? Donald Rumsfeld is a terrific Sec of Defense and I think he would make a great President one day...maybe him being VP could lead us to 8 great years of a Rumsfeld Presidency after 8 great years of Bush. Other candidates that come to mind would be Tom Ridge, Liddy Dole, Ashcroft, and dare i say it...JOHN MCCAIN ( i know, i know, but i think the Bush-MCcain ticket would be a shoe in). My pick would have to be Rice, she is worth her weight in Gold. She is a genius, works well with Bush, and would really be great for the country. And what would the naysayers say after Bush nominates a black woman to be his right hand WOMman?? I think they would just have to throw up the white flag! GO DUBYA!


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To: 86_X42
I agree with you to an extent.. ANY candidate would be foolish to bank on ONE issue (abortion) being a big one, but there is something to be said about a candidate who WILL NOT compromise their position on abortion while at the same time fighting equally hard for the REST of the conservative agenda..
621 posted on 12/29/2001 5:27:40 PM PST by davidosborne
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To: davidosborne
is that a compliment?

You can bet your sweet petooties it's a compliment, honey! I love a man with real, honest to goodness, PRINCIPLES!

622 posted on 12/29/2001 5:28:17 PM PST by Aunt Polgara
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To: SentryoverAmerica
If bio-weapons being used against us and nuclear war threats from India and Pak are not enough to show you that voting for good leaders is important for your loved ones and the country, then you ARE unfit and should get the hell out of Dodge regarding the abortion issue and leave it to us who are sane and sound to come up with tactics to fight the cause.

Would it be even worth reminding you that legal abortions nationally have been legal for barely 30 years?? Should our veterans, pastors, and priests "get the Hell out of Dodge" now because someone changed a law which violates a deeply held and, I might add, traditionally supported, moral law?

Why is it that a view which for MOST of my mother's lifetime (she is 68) was considered unTHINKable and immoral is now labeled sane, and those who continue to hand down the Truth of God are now labeled "unfit"?

The service of those of us (I include myself) who are involved in the nation's defense, and the prior service of those who fought and bled in early times comes to this? Just a "shut up, idiot, with your 'pro-life' ranting and get the HELL out of the country you fought for"??

I beg to differ on your estimation of the sane or insane on this issue.

And what of "good leaders"? In some of our "insane" minds, a good leader is one who stands uncompromisingly for what is right, not for what is currently in vogue. Some of us hold the outdated, passe, and now "insane" and "unfit" reasoning that a nation that will not obey the God who has blessed her can't overcome even one man in the desert.

623 posted on 12/29/2001 5:29:51 PM PST by CaptBlack
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To: Paulus Invictus
I would like to know a little more about where "Rummy" stands on the REST of the conservative agenda before I would support him, name recognition is NOT enough to get my vote in this day and age..
624 posted on 12/29/2001 5:30:32 PM PST by davidosborne
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To: davidosborne
You've got FReepMail !!!
625 posted on 12/29/2001 5:32:09 PM PST by Dr. Good Will Hunting
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To: CaptBlack
Well said Captain !!!
626 posted on 12/29/2001 5:33:12 PM PST by Dr. Good Will Hunting
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To: Aunt Polgara
Hey, I've got principles too !!!

:o)

627 posted on 12/29/2001 5:33:55 PM PST by Dr. Good Will Hunting
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To: CaptBlack;SentryoverAmerica
I think the poster was out of line for suggesting you "get the h... out of dodge"...

We must stand UNITED on the ENTIRE conservative agenda,,, not just the parts that appeal to the middle of the roaders.. in doing that we tell people that its OKAY to be LUKEWARM.. and not Hot or Cold..

628 posted on 12/29/2001 5:34:26 PM PST by davidosborne
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To: Aunt Polgara
Compliment recieved..


629 posted on 12/29/2001 5:36:04 PM PST by davidosborne
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To: davidosborne
...pick a side and FIGHT !! Right on.
630 posted on 12/29/2001 5:37:25 PM PST by Dr. Good Will Hunting
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To: 86_X42
I have read some great stuff here. Had family over the last few days and we have been partying watching this debate when not messing around. Better than 20 Hannity and Colmes. But I gotta tell you something, we think that guy is nuts. We have seen two camps. One camp talks stricly of unborn babies, and the other side talks about ways to win, ties in other critical items and issues, factual data, and makes more sense hands down. I'm not name calling but he has to be nuts to think the way he does.

Honey, maybe you better read a little more carefully, or party a little less. ;^)

631 posted on 12/29/2001 5:39:47 PM PST by Aunt Polgara
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To: davidosborne
We recently lost the lone exception to that rule...Former PA Gov Bob Casey, Democrat. He was the last crusader to attempt to save the soul of that party. His was a valiant fight. May God rest his soul.
632 posted on 12/29/2001 5:41:16 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: Dr. Good Will Hunting
Thank you ..

IMHO third parties stand to lose more than they gain.. I have often said publicly that I believe the best way to pull the GOP to the right is from the INSIDE !!

We must clearly distinguish ourselves from the communist agenda of the left and get generation X in on the fight, on one side or the other..

633 posted on 12/29/2001 5:41:57 PM PST by davidosborne
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To: 86_X42
What facts? Wet your finger and feel which way the wind blows is being factually based?
"Ways of winning"?? Man, ANYONE can win if they compromise enough. Winning isn't the issue for some of us!!! It's winning while being right!

I didn't get the impression that anyone was talking about a choice between a candidate who is TOTALLY left EXCEPT for a pro-life stand and a candidate who is totally right EXCEPT for a pro-choice stand.

I think what some are saying is that given a RANGE of choices between Repubs who are pro-choice but otherwise superb and Repubs who are pro-life but maybe not so "broadly supported" some of us would vote for the latter.(GASP! WHEEZE! THE HORRORS!!)

Incidentally, does principle even MATTER anymore?? All I hear about are "ways to win". And please don't trot out the tired logic of "accommodating" to win so you can slooooooooowly implement your "real" agenda. That is just contemporary spin on an old concept--COMPROMISE. As another has pointed out earlier in the thread, to some of us, differing on abortion is not like differing on the level of tax cuts, it's the difference between wickedness and righteousness.

634 posted on 12/29/2001 5:43:29 PM PST by CaptBlack
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To: SentryoverAmerica
550 plus posts here and not one pro-life zealot among you has admitted the battle is being lost and that we better start looking for new tactics in our pro-life fight.

It is quite impossible to reach people who are out of touch with reality. Look around at the arguments being offered by these people. They offer no facts, no logic, no tangible debate points. All you see is emotional statements. Emotional statements and personal attacks.

635 posted on 12/29/2001 5:43:37 PM PST by pcl
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To: proud2bRC
I can not understand why ANYONE would want to associate themselves with a party who has as its number 1 goal to hand our beloved U.S. over to the U.N.

Click here for Petition to get the UN out of the US....

636 posted on 12/29/2001 5:48:05 PM PST by davidosborne
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To: CaptBlack
And please don't trot out the tired logic of "accommodating" to win so you can slooooooooowly implement your "real" agenda.

How many decades has this losing battle been going on? ROE Vs Wade was soooo long ago, I forgot.

637 posted on 12/29/2001 5:48:42 PM PST by pcl
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To: davidosborne
Well you have a point. I did vote for a Democrat once (only once!). The Republican was some wacko guy who was pro-abortion. The Democrat was a moderate Catholic who was pro-life.
639 posted on 12/29/2001 5:50:18 PM PST by nasamn777
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To: LSUsoph
Powell is a pro-abort and waaaaaaaaay too liberal to be accepeted by the majority of Republicans. Rumsfeld would be good. Bill Bennett, Lynne Cheney, Ann Coulter (my pick) would also be excellent.
640 posted on 12/29/2001 5:51:13 PM PST by nonliberal
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