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To: backup
Give me the provision of the Law that prohibits "pre-marital" sex.

*sigh* Ok, but first, answer this: Do you view the New Testament as the Fulfillment of the Law, or do you not recognize the New Testament writings as scriptural (in other words, "Are You A Jew?" - in which case we could be dealing with the same issue from two completely different aspects...)

:) ttt

148 posted on 12/21/2001 12:43:44 PM PST by detsaoT
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To: detsaoT
*sigh* Ok, but first, answer this: Do you view the New Testament as the Fulfillment of the Law, or do you not recognize the New Testament writings as scriptural (in other words, "Are You A Jew?" - in which case we could be dealing with the same issue from two completely different aspects...)

Yes to your first question.

No to your second.

Not that it makes any difference insofar as this inquiry is concerned...

The N.T. prohibits "unlawful sex." Once must look to the Law to determine the kinds of sex that are unlawful.

I see prostitution, adultery, sodomy, and intercourse during menstruation.

Nothing about concubines. (Which should be obvious in light of the fact that nearly every notable character in the O.T. had some.)

(Also, nothing about lesbianism -- but that is a seperate issue.)

If you want to make some convoluted argument based on analogy and extrapolation -- pieced together from Paul's letters, Proverbs, and other sundry sources -- go for it.

However, it will be only an argument; in no way comparable to the black and white letter of the law which, to save you some searching, never condemns this boy's actions.

In light of the fact that no black&white rule exists in the bible on this subject, I am shocked to see that allend and others are so confident in their condemnation of the kid.

158 posted on 12/21/2001 12:53:14 PM PST by backup
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To: detsaoT
backup wrote: I see prostitution, adultery, sodomy, and intercourse during menstruation.

(...and, of course, bestiality and incest.)

172 posted on 12/21/2001 1:01:37 PM PST by backup
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