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To: cva66snipe
GOD gave 10 Commandments. Christ added these two plus the Great Commission.

You must love the Lord your God with all your heart, all your soul, and all your mind.’

38This is the first and greatest commandment.

39 A second is equally important: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ 40

All the other commandments and all the demands of the prophets are based on these two commandments.”

These and John 3:16 are the foundation of salvation. Actually John 3:16 is the foundation of salvation and the others are commandments. The belief in this alone is the key. No other way there but through Christ. This is non debatable to most all Christian faiths. The rest that has been posted about in this thread will not get you to heaven nor will it condemn you to hell.

Don't be mislead and let an arguement on a Bible passages context destroy your faith or create doubt. Those who wish to do so are only trying to trip you up in legalisms that can not alter GOD's plan of salvation for you. It serves no other purpose but to divide the believers. NOTHING CAN PREVAIL AGAINST GOD's PLAN OF SALVATION. Remember that the next time you run into a overzealous witness and you will have the peace they are trying to take from you. Pray for them but don't let them dictate your fellowship with GOD & Christ.

328 posted on 12/30/2001 11:49:02 PM PST by cva66snipe
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I read up on the so called Word of Faith. Having personally heard Joyce Meyer and listened to as well as read Jthe works of John Hagee I find their teachings no where near approaching the so called standard of Word of Faith. Both these preachers are Salvation by Faith preachers. I suggest the accusers spend less time in slander web sites and actually read their works. I would start with "Day of Deception" by Hagee myself.

Hagee pulls no punches even to his own church. What he preaches is Scripture Based. Perhaps some may have quarel with his teachings on Israel. Perhaps some to the fact he is a pre-tribulationist. I hear so much about faith in here. Yet in some I see so very little. NEWS FLASH!!! Your Christian duties is not to tear down the faith of others. Better mind your own first. Do you not belive that GOD is soverign GOD over Baptist, Catholics, Methodist, and the whole list or is he your personal churches to solely own? What man fails at GODS GRACE COVERS. Yes that includes us all where we take the Bible in a wrong reading. Otherwise we are all lost because no church soley holds the keys to heaven nor the private ear of GOD above all others. He does not repect what church you attend in the sense that he holds it above judgement.

The legalism seen here is the very same that put Christ on a Cross. The Jewish Sanhedrin of that day considered his teachings a threat as well. It was not what Rabbi taught them. My one fear in this thread has been someones faith would be destroyed by seeing it hopeless that no matter what they do it will not be enough. GOD himself gives each person their understanding of his will for them. Some need the disciplines of the Roman Catholic doctorine some the Baptist. It's GOD's bussiness to judge it. Each is Christ based and each can through scripture make their claim just as valid as yours.

No wonder non believers get discouraged when they see the likes of this. GOD granted you the Grace of Salvation. That Grace should be returned in respect to our Christian Brothers and Sisters. Christians have enough hate in this world to face without turning it on our own and yes Baptist the Catholics are your Brothers and Sisters in Christ and vice versa. I'm ashamed to say my church the Baptist is known to have one of the worst legalist doctorines in judging other Christian denominations. I lost my temper with two mainly due to having my post taken and put opposite of their meaning. One as well chooses to preach condemning another for the same. When you are quoting scripture and doctorine yes indeed it is preaching, teaching, and wittnessing. All in all it was a good debate though. Remember though those who's faith is not as strong as your own. Be carefull not to lessen it or take from them. If their convictions say this church or that church is their belief let GOD be the one through the Holy Spirit to convict them if they are in the wrong one. I have enough faith to believe he will. Do you?

329 posted on 12/31/2001 2:23:27 AM PST by cva66snipe
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RE: #328. Amen and AMEN!

Matthew 5

21 "You have heard that it was said to the people long ago, `Do not murder, and anyone who murders will be subject to judgment.'

22 But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to his brother, `Raca,' is answerable to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says, `You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell.

23 "Therefore, if you are offering your gift at the altar and there remember that your brother has something against you,

24 leave your gift there in front of the altar. First go and be reconciled to your brother; then come and offer your gift.

I've sure seen alot of this on the board here. Scary, eh? I won't get baited into calling names and slandering those who have been put into spiritual authority. You never know what plan God has for them... and if they are of not of God, they will fall and fade away. (many have come and gone) If God IS for them....and has set them up for His Purpose... then they are coming against God Himself. Dangerous footing, there! I cannot align myself with the heretic hunters, for that reason.. (even if I may agree with them on a point or two)

Luke 9

49 "Master," said John, "we saw a man driving out demons in your name and we tried to stop him, because he is not one of us."

50 "Do not stop him," Jesus said, "for whoever is not against you is for you."

333 posted on 12/31/2001 6:03:24 AM PST by LaineyDee
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