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To: Matchett-PI
Re: #273: You seem very confused.

No I'm sure of what I say. Am I perfect? No indeed but I am forgiven and Saved By Grace

What does the biblical doctrine of grace extended by the ONE True God have to do with the UNbiblical teachings of false teachers like Meyer, Hagee, et.al., who don't even believe in that God? They teach a "different" God. Since you don't choose to believe me,

I don't have to believe you. Nor do I have to believe them. The truth is I'm not in 100% agreement with any standing teaching of any church. But I listen to learn not to destroy. Billy Graham has one of the best tallents to deliver messages of salvation. It is his gift. Yet he is accused as a heritic by many simply because he does not Baptise at his crusades. Neither did Paul.

I listen to Hagee for understanding of Hebrew traditions to understand parrables & prophecies in that respect the man is brilliant so is Zola Levitt. I read Max Lucado for uplifting of spirit he's a great writter. Are any of them perfect and in the direct word of GOD probably not nor is your preacher. Somewhere you and Viva learned some very unChristian teachings that eat at your soul in hate or jealousy of others teachings. I would question the person teaching you and spreading this type of message.

I have dealt with about every tipe of misinterpitation that can be handed down. That includes a Pentacostal who told my wife her lack of faith kept her in a wheel chair. That's rubish. Adversity is GOD's tempering tool. We face it to grow. I've been through the dark valleys when only those condemned in here would offer sound scriptural advise they were Nuns actually. No I'm not RC either but I was willing to except their wisdom and advice as was my wife. That has led so far to 16 years of a happy marriage despite two persons being disabled. I don't need your narrow misplaced opinions of preachers and the GOSPEL. I do however rely on the Grace of GOD both for salvation and strenght to do what has been asked of me and blessed by him for me to do. I know that my own weaknesses both mental and spititual make me dependent on GODS Sufficent Grace.

How sure am I? Very sure. The same GOD who told me 16 years ago "It was OK" at the lowest time of my life will convict me in spirit the very same way when I am wrong. Yea he's done that as well. To that I believe with all my being. But I want you to consider this. Many persons have been brought to Christ through the messages delivered by these persons. It may not be the message for you to convict you but it may mean an eternity of heaven or hell for others. Do you dare question GOD's plan in others lives? Do you know the person or sermon that can through the power of the Holy Spirit open their hearts? GOD made each person different with individual callings and tallents. I recall him making no one JUDGE of mans eternal salvation. Only GOD can do as much. Will he see Christ in you and not your sins? That alone is the heart of the matter. You are treading on dangerous ground determing other Christ based ministry's rights or wrongs. Now if we were talking about anything other than Judeo Christian faiths I might agree with you. But to condemn brothers and sisters in Christ who have devoted themselves to his ministry and then judge them for it? Not me. Let's leave it to GOD OK?

302 posted on 12/30/2001 8:49:28 PM PST by cva66snipe
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To: cva66snipe
I listen to Hagee for understanding of Hebrew traditions to understand parrables & prophecies in that respect the man is brilliant so is Zola Levitt.

Yes, Hagee and Levitt are great. Coming from a Jewish background ( my father converted to Christianity early in my life, oh the horror, LOL ) I would say that Levitt is really brilliant. Hagee has a keen insight to the customs and rituals and their relevances to today's believers and he explains them well.

Because of my father's conversion and his family's resulting "shame", I was around my paternal family very little so what I picked up was from him. Levitt and Hagee have helped me understand my ancestral roots.

320 posted on 12/30/2001 10:03:13 PM PST by PleaseNoMore
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