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To: Uncle Bill
I love your answer in reply #81. Now that is an answer!!!

Poohbah needs to take lessons from you on what it means to give and receive substantitive replies. He is starting to sound frustrated.

84 posted on 12/26/2001 2:05:37 PM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: OKCSubmariner
The US Constitution gives Congress the sole power “to regulate Commerce with foreign Nations.” [1] Therefore, a vote in favor of PNTR, which transfers that power to international bodies—an unlawful offense already committed by Congress and the president—is an abdication of duty on the part of our elected representatives, and a direct violation of their congressional oath of office. Such a vote can only be interpreted as a direct attack upon the Constitution and a signal of terminated allegiance to America (read: treason).

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To the people of China:

I bring you greetings from the USA. I am a great believer in the US - China relationship. I want to see PNTR pass in the Congress. As President, I had to fight hard to keep MFN for China. Now some of the same people who fought against keeping MFN want to defeat normalizing trade with China. President Clinton and the Republican leaders in the House are doing all they can. I believe that they will win. It is important they do. I want to see more Trade between China and the USA. Good luck to all!

Signed,
George Bush

MeetChina.com, May 17, 2000

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The United States of America - China Chamber of Commerce
200 West Madison Street Suite 2000, Chicago, IL 60606
Tel: (312) 368-0430 Fax: (312) 368-0418
Email:info@usccc.org

Chairman Prescott S. Bush, Jr.
Prescott Bush Resources, Ltd


103 Posted on 06/04/2000 20:33:11 PDT by Benighted


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New York, NY -- Business Wire -- May 23, 2000 --

As the United States Congress readies for a vote that could give China Permanent Normal Trade Relations (PNTR) with the U.S. today, Chinese television will broadcast a message from former President George Bush supporting U.S.-China trade relations and encouraging a stronger relationship between the two nations. In a message sent over the Internet to the Chinese people, President Bush urged Congress to pass PNTR for China.

"I am a great believer in the US - China relationship," President Bush wrote in an email sent over MeetChina.com, China's leading business to business trade portal.

"I want to see PNTR pass in the Congress. As President I had to fight hard to keep MFN for China. President Clinton and the Republican leaders in the house are doing all they can. I believe that they will win."

The online message was written during a demonstration of the MeetChina.com trade portal, which facilitates online trade between China and the global marketplace.

Following the demonstration, former President Bush addressed a luncheon of business leaders to further voice his support for the China PNTR proposal, which comes up for vote Wednesday in the U.S. Congress.

"50 years ago China and the U.S. embarked on two different economic and political paths," said President Bush, "and now with the issue of WTO accession and trade normalization we have a chance to head in the same direction together and make up for the lost opportunities of the past."

President Bush further commented "It is absolutely essential in my view that (this bill) pass…I cannot stress enough the importance of the U.S-China trade relationship."

Guests at the luncheon included The Honorable Cheng Siwei, Vice Chairman Standing Committee, National People's Congress, People Republic of China, and H.E. Hongxi, Chinese Consul General.


SNOW: Is China a big threat...

BUSH: No.

SNOW: To the United States?

BUSH: It's a threat if we mishandle the relationship, but it's not a threat. China is not seeking hegemony. I see no evidence and I'd like one person that's a critic of China on the Republican right or the Democratic left to tell me why they think they're seeking hegemony.

SNOW: How do you read China's involvement in the 1996 elections, pumping all the money into the campaigns?

BUSH: Well, I don't know how much of that was Chinese government. But I headed CIA at one time, and gentlemen do read other gentlemen's mail.

SNOW: How about gentlemen reading other gentlemen's nuclear secrets?

BUSH: If the committee that's looking at this proves that our national security has been damaged by espionage, it would be a very serious matter.

SNOW: This really would change the dynamic... ?

BUSH: But not of the overall -- well now, if you could say that this was ordered by Jiang Zemin, you know, I think it would change the dynamic. But I don't think -- it's not going to finish -- it shouldn't finish off the relationship.

I think any time any secret is compromised by a country large or small, it's a matter of national security interests. This, you know, lecturing and badgering that some people are doing with China, just is out of touch. I lived in China. There are more human rights and individual liberties in China today, than by far than when I lived there. And some of the critics have never been there. "I will cut off MFN to China." It'd lose a lot of American jobs, and they set China back and they can push them on a course to be adversarial.

I just think it's very narrow-minded.

...BUSH: I think what happened was that in the Vietnam war responsible members of the press felt they were lied to. And following that was Watergate and they felt, correctly so, that they were lied to. And I think the culture changed somewhere in there, and I think the journalistic school says, hey, we're going to have a different standard. The standard of justice in this country in innocent till proved guilty, but were going to shift it now -- this is subtly, they didn't really teach it, but -- we're going to have it guilty till proved innocent.

SNOW: Do you think that standard of guilt was applied to Bill Clinton?

BUSH: Well, I think I'm afraid in some instances it was. There was a lot of charges made against Clinton that weren't true. But perhaps that view was reinforced because he said this wasn't true, and it turned out it was true.
[end of partial transcript]

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113 posted on 12/26/2001 5:20:57 PM PST by Uncle Bill
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