Let me list a few other treasonous acts I believe (opinion) former Presdent Bush committed while President and Vice-President:
1.Knowingly giving Saddam and Iraq weapons of mass destruction before the Gulf War including biological chemical and NUCLEAR WEAPONS.
2.Giving the Russians tech details of the US SDI (missile defense) program in the 1980s
3.Giving the Russians US nuke bomb tech in the 1980s.
4.Giving the Chinese US nuke bomb tech (including the neutron bomb) in the 1980s.
5.Unilaterally disarming the US of many valuable nuclear weapons and delivery systems in 1991 including the US neutron bomb.
6.Lying about and covering up and threatening and smearing those who knew about and investigated items 1-4 including Army intelligence and Congress.
7. Gave plastic explosives to Libya via the Ed Wilson & the CIA.
8. Engaged in illegal drug trafficking at Mena, Arkansas and other sites around the world and inside the US.
The last time I checked no one in Congress succeeded in getting effective action taken against CLinton or Bush for their treasonable acts involving Mena over drugs and China and Russia over nuclear weapons. I believe there is evidence available to be weighed in a court of law and in a Senate trial on all these matters but I do not believe it will ever happen.
My opinion remains that former President Bush committed acts of treason against America while he was President.
I am not running for office, I am not writing a book and I am not in a court of law. I did not write an article for publication or even an official editorial. I freely give out my opinion at coffee shops and barber shops and even on the FreeRepublic-imagine that! And I hear others giving out opinions similar to mine at all the same places.
I pay my taxes and I served my country honorably in the military.
I am free to write my opinion that Bush was a traitor to America while President in my replies on FR. He can be publicly criticized and called a traitor for acts during his term as President since he was a public figure.
I also vote my opinions. I do not respect your not respecting my right of free speech (that is my opinion in case you do not know the difference yet).
BTW, Sam Cohen did claim that he believed Bush gave the neutron bomb to the Chinese, that the Russians tested a mini nuke at LosAlamos, and that he believes red mercury exists. I have provided the basis that Cohen made those claims. It is your burden and Poohbah's burden to decide whether or not you want to believe or disbelieve Cohen.
Also ample basis has been provided on this thread about Bush giving Iraq and Saddam weapons of mass destruction (that is treason if you still do not get it) which you and Poohbah conveniently ignore.
I have noticed that many times when you (like Poohbah) do not agree with someone's information (basis) or opinion you ignore it, pretend it does not exist and claim no basis was provided.
You will not succeed in preventing me from expressing my view that former President Bush was a traitor or preventing other people from ageeing with me who have the same opinion. There are many who for many years agree with me on FR and not on FR that former President Bush was a traitor while Presient and Vice -President. Guess you will have to put up with it.
What will you do if any of this shows up in a history book? A former President's legacy is important to him especially if he is vain. It is a fact of history which will be recorded that many people held the view, wrote about and spoke about their belief that former Presdent Bush was a traitor to America.
First you said in Post #19 that Bush DID commit treason. You didn't use the weasel-words "in my opinion," like you did here--you just stated it as bald fact. Fast forward to Post #107, and now you're waffling and saying that it's just your opinion. You obviously decided to go with the lesser of two weasels on this issue.
Then, you essentially said, "well, I didn't really say that stuff about 'red mercury,' Sam Cohen did." Guess what, Paddie? When you go around breathlessly repeating every word out of somebody's mouth on a forum like this, those words become YOUR words, unless Sam Cohen's holding a gun to your head while you're posting. Once again, you showed a lack of intestinal fortitude at the moment of truth. And you have consistently demonstrated an unwillingness to address serious questions that you raised by posting this stuff.
For shame, Paddie.
Now you say it is your *opinion* that former Pres Bush committed treason. That seems to be a far cry from a direct charge that he committed treason.
I really can't speak to some of what you say gives you this opinion, except the Mena thing. Looks like you've read Terry Reed's book, but you fail to mention that it was Clinton who got the money every week from Tyson's personal pilot.
You've managed a small following, and IMO (we al have them) small wonder that you've kept them. But, I will give you credit for one thing--you're prolific with your patronization of these unsuspecting people, when you give them a public pat on the head, complimenting them on the good work they do.
I pay my taxes, too, even tho' I'm retired. I also served my country honorably, as a civilian, in a war zone. Is there a point to your comment?
You certainly are free to write your OPINION that former Pres Bush is a traitor, so long as you state it in those terms. Might be a good idea to avoid giving folks the idea that you *know* Pres Bush is a traitor, since you admit it is an OPINION. I am also free to write *my* OPINION that I believe you are a fake.
You see, there are some rather important people on this forum, and I know a few through e/FRmails, and they do not spend their time telling the forum how important they are, who they know, and what they know. Really important and knowledgable people don't have to do that; most of us are intelligent and observant enought to figure that out on our own.
107 posted on 12/26/01 5:43 PM Pacific by OKCSubmariner
Momentito, Mr B. Are you going to do a Rivero and SKYDRIFTER comment that if we'd listened to you.........? Bullshit!!! Geez, at least those guys have websites.
You want to talk traitor? Let's talk Clinton.
Old hands hold hands with Beijing on trade policy
"Mr. Kissinger and Mr. Haig are not registered with the department as foreign agents, even though the law requires registration and disclosure of activities and compensation by U.S. residents representing foreign government or business interests in the United States."
The China threat becomes real
"Always of interest in such matters is the way the Clinton administration treats the hero, Notra Trulock -- the whistleblower who relentlessly tried to expose this scandal for years before it unfolded. Trulock was unceremoniously demoted as head of the Department of Energy's intelligence office to acting deputy.
The CIA's former chief of counterintelligence, Paul Redmond, first briefed by Trulock in 1996 on the theft of U.S. nuclear secrets by the Chinese, makes no bones about how big this scandal is.
"This was far more damaging to the national security than Aldrich Ames," he said. Redmond should know. He made his name by unmasking Soviet mole Ames at the CIA.
America once executed people responsible for such betrayals.
Whatever Happened to Iraqgate? Was it swept under the rug because of the CIA - - or Hillary?
"The story had all the ingredients for a political potboiler: official letters from the director of the CIA and the attorney general to House Banking Committee Chairman Henry Gonzalez (D-Tex.), warning him to drop his investigation of an obscure bank in Atlanta, Georgia, because of unspecified "national security" implications; highly publicized allegations by Gonzalez of a White House cover-up; a corporate whistleblower who claimed her life had been threatened; and tales of Iraqi agents cozying up to CIA operatives, and buying up U.S. companies to establish the covert arms pipeline to Saddam.
"It was all a CIA operation,"
If the report was indeed a cover-up to protect the intelligence community, then the CIA's influence over the Justice Department is more powerful than anybody outside the Clinton administration might have suspected. Nobody but William Safire of the New York Times seems to have paid much attention, but just three weeks after the BNL report was released, Reno decided to pay the bank more than $400 million -- of U.S. taxpayer money -- to compensate the losses of its Atlanta branch in Iraq."
God, the Constitution, the law, families, integrity, honor, responsibility, honesty, sovereignty, America, doing what's right. Onward and downward.
D.C. BANK SWEPT UP IN INTRIGUE ... [CIA, MAFIA, S&L FRAUD, PROSTITUTION & MURDER]
Stiff upper lip now. Let the dogs loose.