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By Any Other Name [Walker committed treason.]
Investor's Business Daily | 13 Dec. 2001

Posted on 12/20/2001 3:18:02 PM PST by flamefront

Terror: John Walker left America, endorsed military attacks on it, then joined arms with those attackers. If this isn't treason, then what is?

The Walker case is no small matter. How America responds to it will reveal much about how seriously it takes the war on terrorism. Will America uphold the laws that protect it? Or will if neglect them as it slips back into the very relativism that made America vulnerable to Walker's Taliban brethren in the first place?

President Bush has said America will make no distinction between terrorists and those who harbor them. Why, then, should his administration make an exception for an American who fought with them?

Treason is the only crime listed in the U.S. Constitution for a reason: It is the direst threat to the common good. If it is left unpunished, free republics fold.

Walker is not a "misguided" boy, as the usual chorus of apologists assert, but a self-described "jihadi," the same age, 20, as many of the American soldiers his Taliban friends tried to kill.

The Constitution says, "No Person shall be convicted of Treason, unless on the Testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on Confession in open Court." Will Walker's case meet these requirements?

This is an open question. The two CIA agents who questioned a surly Walker in a prison in Mazar-e-Sharif might have satisfied the Constitution's requirement. But one of them, Mike Spann, died in a prison revolt that Walker's stonewalling helped, at least indirectly.

Walker still might confess, or other witnesses to his conduct may still be alive. Whatever happens Walker should not escape trial for political reasons, or on loopholes a la Alan Dershowitz.

Perhaps only in the relativistic redoubt of Northern California's Marin County -- where Walker first imbibed his anti-Americanism -- would treason abroad form a legitimate destination point on a young adult's search for self-identity.

In the real world, treason kills people, and a society that treats it as an eccentric joke is on the path to ruin.

American's cannot justify Walker's conduct without jeopardizing their own future safety. They cannot release Walker on a rationalization without at the same time insulting all the men his age who are making equally free choices in defense if American freedom.

Punishment and reward presuppose that humans, beyond the age of reason, are free moral agents. If John Walker isn't responsible for his treachery, then his contemporaries in the Marines aren't responsible for their heroism.

This is an abominable conclusion to draw. But it necessarily follows from a philosophy that considers 20-year-olds automatons of fate, not humans with free choice.

A writer for the San Francisco Chronicle says Bush should welcome Walker back to America, and "let him get his life back on track. We'd want nothing less for our own children, who could easily have found themselves in a similar mess."

Freeing Walker would only deepen the mess. After decades of anti-Americanism -- long indulged by craven politicians -- Americans, particularly young Americans, need a clarifying lesson in law and civic duty. Sure, let him return to the Bay area. But to a cell in San Quentin.



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I hear too much liberal appology for Walker in the media, so I went and grabbed this printed editorial that pretty well underlines the significance of what is turning into a media game surrounding Walker.

The lawyer James Brosnahan, unoffordable by mear peasants like the Walker's father, what large organization is footing his bill? And what about all the CNN exposure? Whose PR?

Treason - "It is the direst threat to the common good. If it is left unpunished, free republics fold."
(Hurray, for Free Republics.)

The Constitution says, "No Person shall be convicted of Treason, unless on the Testimony of two witnesses to the same overt act, or on Confession in open Court."

Maybe a confession will be forthcoming. Demand it from the shriveling lips of Walker. Or will he further shrivel behind the 5th Amendment and media support?

Much more than Walker himself hangs in the balance here.

1 posted on 12/20/2001 3:18:02 PM PST by flamefront
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To: Cobra64; snopercod
FYI
2 posted on 12/20/2001 3:18:40 PM PST by flamefront
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To: flamefront
President Bush should welcome Mr. Walker back to America.

I suggest he be released in Manhattan.

L

3 posted on 12/20/2001 3:22:11 PM PST by Lurker
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To: flamefront
The media fears treason laws.... we know why
4 posted on 12/20/2001 3:23:14 PM PST by Lexington Green
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To: flamefront
BTTT!
5 posted on 12/20/2001 3:24:49 PM PST by kattracks
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To: flamefront
Agreed, flamefront. But I think it will be impossible politically to obtain conviction and appropriate punishment. Impossible. Johnny is now a celebrity, a known and therefore somewhat sympathetic face. Mike Spann may be turned into a Mike Fuhrman of sorts, just wait and see.

Here's an approach to take. Johnny was in a prison run by the new Afghan government. Why in the world did the US spring him, rescue hime from a foreign prison? This is what in effect we did! The best way out for the Bushies, who I'd bet are dreading the upcoming circus show (which has already started,) would be to extradite Johnny back to Afghanistan and forget about him. I imagine a demand for extradition from the Afghans (or the Indians or the Pakis on whose territories he also committed crimes,) could be arranged.

6 posted on 12/20/2001 3:29:17 PM PST by Revolting cat!
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I think we should release him to the Northern Alliance. Let them do with him as they please.

He got himself into this, release him to the Afghans and see if he can get himself out.

Either:
A. He is a treasonous bastard whose crime is of great relevence to the United States. In which case he should be convicted and hung, or
B. He is not actually treasonous and he is simply another AlQaeda foreign mercenary who was a member of the occupying force in Afghanistan. As such he is of no concern to the US and we should do nothing to help repatriate him.

8 posted on 12/20/2001 3:40:04 PM PST by steve in DC
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To: flamefront
"In the real world, treason kills people, and a society that treats it as an eccentric joke is on the path to ruin. "

Bless you, Flamefront, for posting this sensibly written editorial. It cuts right to the heart of the mantter.

9 posted on 12/20/2001 3:47:25 PM PST by MizSterious
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To: Revolting cat!
The Indians, now that is a good idea. President Bush was speaking of the Islamist terrorism commited against them just this afternoon. Trouble is, I don't know if they have the death penalty. If they don't we should try him for treason and murder of a federal officer, if one charge doesn't get him, the other one will. There are other charges possible too, and all should be pursued. The lessor ones first, so as to enhance the penalties of the greater ones.
10 posted on 12/20/2001 3:49:34 PM PST by El Gato
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To: flamefront

11 posted on 12/20/2001 3:52:42 PM PST by BunnySlippers
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To: flamefront

...committed treason...

Looks innocent to me (???)

12 posted on 12/20/2001 3:52:55 PM PST by droberts
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To: Revolting cat!
But I think it will be impossible politically to obtain conviction and appropriate punishment.

Just hold the trial in New York city, or the Virgina suburbs of DC. You will have to find a hanging judge though, since I believe in the federal system the judge determines the sentence. Might also be a good idea to hold it in the 5th District. Texans won't look any more kindly on him than New Yorkers or Virginians, and the 5th Circuit is mostly Texas judges, and you know Texas judges aren't known for being anti death penalty. The Supreme Court won't touch the case with a ten foot pole, "Cert Denied!".

13 posted on 12/20/2001 3:57:59 PM PST by El Gato
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To: flamefront
The initial liberal/defense attorney/bleeding heart defense I'm hearing about Johnny bin Laden is the reason why he shouldn't be tried in our courts. It will be a circus with a huge elephant in the courtroom. He took arms for a foreign government, he's no longer a US citizen, he goes to a military tribunal. End of story.
14 posted on 12/20/2001 4:21:23 PM PST by caisson71
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To: flamefront
Thanks for keying this in. IBD is worth the subscription price for their editorial commentary alone.
15 posted on 12/20/2001 4:42:19 PM PST by snopercod
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To: flamefront
One scenario I haven't seen mentioned concerning Walker is the following:

If an American takes up arms in the service of another nation, I believe he forfeits his U.S. citizenship.

If true, then Walker, contrary to what so many are saying, is no longer a U.S. citizen.

Therefore, he should be given a fair trial - and then hung (not as a traitor, but as the terrorist scum that he is).

16 posted on 12/20/2001 4:56:25 PM PST by Matthew James
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To: El Gato
Let me enlighten you from personal experience with the 5th circuit court. They are the best liberal judges that money can buy. If little Johnny goes up before them he will end up being turned loose and set up to live the good life on American soil like another well known traitor. Hanoi Jane never paid for her crimes against America. She fit the description of a traitor. Many soldiers never returned. But she has lived a life of extreme wealth while American soldiers who lived to return to this country live on the streets and eat from garbage cans.
17 posted on 12/20/2001 5:02:02 PM PST by Retribution44
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To: Retribution44
The boy should burn!!
18 posted on 12/20/2001 5:21:32 PM PST by soundsolutions
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To: soundsolutions
I beleive in justice to fit the crime. He should be put in chains and spend his days working at ground zero cleaning up the mess that his friends made. He should spend his nights sleeping on the rocks that his friends reduced the trade center to.
19 posted on 12/20/2001 5:28:39 PM PST by Retribution44
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To: Retribution44
Burning, fits a better retribution as they caused a lot of our brothers & sisters to burn!
20 posted on 12/20/2001 5:33:44 PM PST by soundsolutions
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