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To: Equality 7-2521
An imperfect system that was somehow designed by a perfect being?

Don't answer my question with one of your own. You're backpedaling, and you're remarks regarding God are disingenuous as well as being untruthful.
Ya see, God didn't want to just create a bunch of robots, so he gave mankind a free will, of which we are now reaping the 'benefits' of...on account of those who became pretentious & vain.
So, can I assume that you're an atheist?

54 posted on 12/19/2001 10:57:32 AM PST by jla
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To: jla
Don't answer my question with one of your own. You're backpedaling, and you're remarks regarding God are disingenuous as well as being untruthful. Ya see, God didn't want to just create a bunch of robots, so he gave mankind a free will, of which we are now reaping the 'benefits' of...on account of those who became pretentious & vain.

I think the argument goes along the lines that since God is both omnipotent and omniscient, He could easily have created beings with free will who would choose, through their free will, lifestyles in accordance with God's desires.
56 posted on 12/19/2001 11:00:48 AM PST by Dimensio
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To: jla
Don't answer my question with one of your own.

Why? I asked mine first only it wasn't really phrased as a question the first time. I'll answer your question with a statement since you didn't like my question. If I recall correctly your question was regarding how the chromosomal defects happened. My updated reply which will let you avoid my question is: an imperfect system that is prone to outside forces (microbes, virii, bacteria) that effectively alter the "normal" genetic characteristics. That is of course only one possiblity.

You're backpedaling, and you're remarks regarding God are disingenuous as well as being untruthful.

My only remark regarding your god is that I don't believe. I assure you that remark is most certainly not untrue.

Ya see, God didn't want to just create a bunch of robots, so he gave mankind a free will...<snip>

And just for kicks decided to throw in a few time bombs (imperfect genetic structure, disease, cancer, birth defects) to "test" his creations? You know what, if I could build a machine that could make "choices" I still wouldn't use bearings with pits, or gears with missing teeth. So maybe I am smarter or better than your god--I'd really never thought of that before.

So, can I assume that you're an atheist?

If you do you'll be assuming wrong. I'm agnostic. I won't deny that it's possible that there's some kind of supernatural beast out there that's having fun at some people's expense. I won't deny that it's possible that said beast guided the origin of matter and life. But if it did happen that way then there are one of two possibilities: 1. The creator isn't perfect or 2. The creator intentionally causes pain and suffering in its creations.

I hope it's #1, because #2 would mean that the creator is quite evil.

63 posted on 12/19/2001 11:22:34 AM PST by Equality 7-2521
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