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When the clintons left office, I predicted that the country would eventually learn--sadly, the hard way--that this depraved, self-absorbed and inept pair had placed America (and the world) in mortal danger. But I was thinking years, not months.

You might call that "thinking" but I call it going along with Clintonhating dittoheads, who have accused the ex-President of murder, treason, bribery, and lesser crimes too numerous and too trivial even to mention.

Well, actually, you moronic twit, Clinton was more than likely involved in the laundering of money from the People's Liberation Army to the DNC and a kickback scam to LORAL Systems involving Bernard Schwartz, classified American satellite technology, and Chinese Long March lifting vehicles.

William Jefferson Clinton was an unprincipled bounder whose narcissistic personality led him to believe in one ideology: the furtherance of his own career.

Or perhaps you feel better supporting a war criminal who killed innocent Sudanese to distract attention from Monica Lewinsky's testimony of August of 1998. Christopher Hitchens did a wonderful job exposing Clinton's perfidy.

If you and other Repukies were aware of such "mortal danger" before 9/11, why didn't you tell us Islamic criminals were about to attack the twin towers with highjacked airplanes. Even Carnak (on the Tonight Show) gave us more detailed information than the vague, non-specific garbage spewed forth in language quoted above.

It might be because al-Qaeda was very good at compartmentalizing information and personnel. But I shouldn't expect an effing idiot like you to begin to understand basic military tactics, should I? After all, you are a liberal Democrat, and liberal Democrats are Dumb as Dirt.

Now you repulsive little troll, go back to DU and spread your current wisdom over there. There are more than enough Useful Idiots to buy into your drivel on that website.

Be Seeing You,


5 posted on 12/19/2001 10:04:04 AM PST by section9
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To: section9; justshutupandtakeit; MurryMom

Q ERTY1 bump!

Rumor has it William Jefferson Clinton himself is to recite Honest Abe's lines in this New Year's Eve pageant. Whoever writes these scripts has a natural talent for irony. For some irrepressible reason, one cannot help but think of that costume party in "The Manchurian Candidate,'' complete with Red Queen and Abe Lincoln in stovepipe hat and fake beard.

Hey, what a party! New Year's at the White House


The Manchurian Candidate?

Or Being There?
by Mia T
The Republicans' latest talking point is that the breach of national security enabled by clinton must be simple incompetence, that the concept that anyone in government would commit treason is too outrageous even to contemplate.
If the Republicans believe what they are saying, then they are morons.
If they don't believe what they are saying, then they are traitors.
Outrageousness is an essential element of clinton corruption. The clinton crimes -- perjury, obstruction of justice, abuse of power, rape, murder -- and now treason -- are so outrageous that they allow clinton hacks to reasonably brand all clinton accusers clinton-hating neo-Nazi crazies.
Yet privately few clintonites would deny that bill clinton facilitated China espionage. Their only question: "Why?"
Some call clinton a quisling, a Manchurian Candidate, bought off in Little Rock by Riady and company decades ago (and much too cheaply, according to his Chinese benefactors), trading our national security for his political power. This argument is persuasive but incomplete; clinton, a certifiable megalomaniac, is driven ultimately by his solipsistic, messianic world view and by that which ultimately quashes all else -- his toxic legacy.
William J. Broad suggests (Spying Isn't the Only Way to Learn About Nukes, The New York Times, May 30, 1999) that clinton had another reason to empower China and disembowel America. Broad argues that clinton sought to disseminate our atomic secrets proactively in order to implement his counterintuitive, postmodern, quite inane epistemological theory, namely, that, contrary to currently held dogma, knowledge is not power after all -- that, indeed, quite the contrary is the case.
Broad writes in part:
Since 1993, officials say, the Energy Department's "openness initiative"
has released at least 178 categories of atom secrets. By contrast, the
1980s saw two such actions. The unveilings have included no details of
specific weapons, like the W-88, a compact design Chinese spies are
suspected of having stolen from the weapons lab at Los Alamos, N.M. But
they include a slew of general secrets.
Its overview of the disclosures, "Restricted Data Declassification
Decisions," dated January 1999 and more than 140 pages long, lists such
things as how atom bombs can be boosted in power, key steps in making
hydrogen bombs, the minimum amount (8.8 pounds) of plutonium or uranium
fuel needed for an atom bomb and the maximum time it takes an exploding
atomic bomb to ignite an H-bomb's hydrogen fuel (100 millionths of a
No grade-B physicist from any university could figure this stuff. It
took decades of experience gained at a cost of more than $400 billion.
The release of the secrets started as a high-stakes bet that openness
would lessen, not increase, the world's vulnerability to nuclear arms
and war. John Holum, who heads arms control at the State Department,
told Congress last year that the test ban "essentially eliminates" the
possibility of a renewed international race to develop new kinds of
nuclear arms.
And the devaluing of nuclear secrets, highlighted by the rush of atomic
declassifications, was seen as a prerequisite to the ban's achievement.
The symbolism alone was potent, officials say. Openness let them
advertise a dramatic new state of affairs where hidden actions were to
be kept to a minimum, replacing decades of secrecy and paranoia.
"The United States must stand as leader," O'Leary told a packed news
conference in December 1993 upon starting the process. "We are
declassifying the largest amount of information in the history of the
Critics, however, say the former secrets are extremely valuable to
foreign powers intent on making nuclear headway. Gaffney, the former
Reagan official, disparaged the giveaway as "dangling goodies in front
of people to get them to sign up into our arms-control agenda."
Thomas B. Cochran, a senior scientist at the Natural Resources Defense
Council in Washington, a private group that has criticized the openness,
said the declassifications had swept away so many secrets that the
combination had laid bare the central mysteries.
"In terms of the phenomenology of nuclear weapons," Cochran said, "the
cat is out of the bag."
Even before the China scandal broke, experts outside the administration
faulted the openness as promoting the bomb's spread. Last year, a
bipartisan commission of nine military specialists led by former Defense
Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said the "extensive declassification" of
secrets had inadvertently aided the global spread of deadly weapons.
["inadvertently" ???!!!!]  
The ultimate brake on nuclear advances was to be the Comprehensive Test
Ban Treaty, which clinton began to push for as soon as he took office in
1993, hailing it as the hardest-fought, longest-sought prize in the
history of arms control.
Broad would have us believe we are watching "Being There" and not "The Manchurian Candidate." His argument is superficially appealing as most reasonable people would conclude that it requires the simplemindedness of a Chauncy Gardener (in "Being There") to reason that instructing China and a motley assortment of terrorist nations on how to beef up their atom bombs and how not to omit the "key steps" when building hydrogen bombs would somehow blunt and not stimulate their appetites for bigger and better bombs and a higher position in the power food chain...(or, alternatively, to fail to understand that the underlying premise of MAD (mutually assured destruction) is the absense of madness.)
But it is Broad's failure to fully connect the dots -- clinton 's wholesale release of atomic secrets, decades of Chinese money sluicing into clinton 's campaigns, clinton 's pushing of the test ban treaty, clinton 's concomitant sale of supercomputers, and clinton 's noxious legacy -- that blows his argument to smithereens and reduces his piece to just another desensitizing clinton apologia by The New York Times.
But even if clinton is a thoroughgoing (albeit postmodern) fool, China-gate is still treason. The strict liability Gump-ism, "Treason is as treason does"applies.
(The idea that an individual can be convicted of the crime of treason only if there is treasonous intent or mens rea runs contrary to the concept of strict liability crimes. That doctrine (Park v United States, (1974) 421 US 658,668) established the principle of 'strict liability' or 'liability without fault' in certain criminal cases, usually involving crimes which endanger the public welfare.)
Calling his position on the Comprehensive Test Ban Treaty "an historic milestone" (if he must say so himself), clinton believed that if he could get China to sign it, he would go down in history as the savior of mankind. This was 11 August 1995.
According to James Risen and Jeff Gerth of The New York Times, "the legacy codes and the warhead data that goes with them" [-- apparently stolen from the Los Alamos weapons lab by scientist, Wen Ho Lee aided and abetted by bill clinton , hillary clinton , the late Ron Brown, Sandy Berger, Hazel O'Leary, Janet Reno, Eric Holder and others in the clinton administration (not to mention congressional clinton accomplices Glenn, Daschle, Bumpers, Harkin, Boxer, Feinstein, Lantos, Levin. Lautenberg, Torricelli et al.) --] "could be particularly valuable for a country, like China, that has signed onto the nuclear test ban treaty and relies solely on computer simulations to upgrade and maintain its nuclear arsenal [especially when combined with the supercomputers that clinton sold to China to help them finish the job]. The legacy codes are now used to maintain the American nuclear arsenal through computer simulation.
Most of Lee's transfers occurred in 1994 and 1995, just before China signed the test ban treaty in 1996, according to American officials."
Few who have observed clinton would argue against the proposition that this legacy-obsessed megalomaniac would trade our legacy codes for a rehabilitated legacy in a Monica minute and to hell with "the children."

Under President Bush, Dick Cheney cut back the military, which was the right course in view of what was happening in the Soviet Union, and there it stood, at levels provocative to none and sufficient unto the day. Would that it had remained so, but President Clinton then characteristically seized upon a thing that didn't need to be fixed, and set about breaking it. The detailed litany is sad and long, but, roughly speaking, he has reduced America's military power by one-half while expanding the scope of its involvement. This has been not in response to fact but to do well by his reflexively antimilitary political base on the left and in the feminized middle, and to create a reserve from which to extract shots of honey targeted to pay off allies and buy new support.
Reconciling such destructive politicization with the assumption that the president cares about national security has required a bunch of bloody lies. . .

MARK HELPRIN, Defense of the Realm

It's the TERRORISM, stupid

by Mia T, 11-22-01


It's the TERRORISM, stupid.

The clintons failed to understand this painfully obvious fact when they were 'legacy-building'...

or stuffing their campaign coffers...

or concocting their counterintuitive, postmodern, quite inane theory of nuclear safety.

The clintons' essential blunder was a failure to understand that mutually assured destruction (MAD) assumes, among other things, a certain symmetry, certain identity and, most important of all, the absence of madness...

7 posted on 12/19/2001 11:24:02 AM PST by Mia T
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