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To: OWK
And of course we have on the other side the other great uncaused cause the "singular" from whence all matter came in the great big bang.

It all comes down to "faith" in your uncaused cause, and my uncaused cause doesn't it. Of course in science there is no such thing is there? Funny that science bases the beginning on something that inherently makes this law moot.

44 posted on 12/18/2001 6:03:46 PM PST by Chipper
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To: Chipper
And of course we have on the other side the other great uncaused cause the "singular" from whence all matter came in the great big bang.

I find "big bang" suggestions every bit as disatisfying as I find infinite strings of intelligent creators.

Neither rings true to me.

But I am content to say "right now, I just don't know".

50 posted on 12/18/2001 6:08:41 PM PST by OWK
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To: Chipper
… It all comes down to "faith" in your uncaused cause, and my uncaused cause doesn't it. Of course in science there is no such thing is there?...

The laws of quantum mechanics allow lots of things to happen without a cause.
The universe may be just one of those things.

71 posted on 12/18/2001 8:42:12 PM PST by nimdoc
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To: Chipper
It all comes down to "faith" in your uncaused cause, and my uncaused cause doesn't it. Of course in science there is no such thing is there? Funny that science bases the beginning on something that inherently makes this law moot.

Most certainly science uses assumptions to draw conclusions. Scientific proof is often mathematics based. Mathematics contains assumptions (axioms, postulates) stated up front. Physics posits matter and/or energy. It offers no proof that either actually exists, nor can it.

181 posted on 12/19/2001 1:58:04 PM PST by laredo44
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