[Orangedog]

By the time a kid is 16 a parent has either done their job or has not. After that they make sure that the kid makes it to 18 and hope that they didn't make too many mistakes because it's in the 18 year old's hands after that. These parents clearly didn't do their job.

[CindyDawg]

I wasn't supporting the actions of these parents. They are going to have to live with what they have done. It's just that I tire of hearing excuses for criminal behavior due to how people are raised.