[stands2reason]

You gotta point there. At the risk of being called a "slobbering Bush cheerleader no better than any one of the Clintonistas", I will at least refrain from maligning Bush until I catch him in a lie. I guess in answer to those paleo and libertarian idealists I would say--As a student of human nature, I know idealism rarely succeeds. Changing the way most of Americans think won't happen overnight, and if you try to force it in a free country it will backfire. If you want your ideals to take over America, you need to steal the playbook of the socialists. They were very successful in this country--they slowly turned up the heat until our frog was cooked. And that frog sat there and took it.

[eureka!]

My thoughts exactly. Incrementalism works both ways and takes time. Until shown otherwise, I am trusting W--all the while understanding he will need to choose his battles, especially with childish b*ttwipes like Dasshole and Leahy....