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Salon runs comic calling assassination of Bush desirable and humorous
Salon ^ | December 11, 2001 | Carol Lay

Posted on 12/13/2001 2:41:52 PM PST by Timesink



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: andrewsullivanlist; salondeathwatch
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To: xm177e2
I will need to write a letter defending a dream I had about David Talbot's assassination.
61 posted on 12/13/2001 6:37:37 PM PST by Lazamataz
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To: Wordkraft
my reply to him:

Davie-

You may have been around for 6 years, and you might have just gone through another round of "re-financing", but I think we BOTH know your hayday was during the Clinton years, and I'd wager that your "re-financing" was trying to keep from going bankrupt.

Face it: you run a two-bit publication that caters to the most extreme left-wing fringe. Salon.com has gone so far downhill, you had to start charging money for an "adult content" section. As for myself, I'm a successful computer/network technician, musician, and webmaster.

Send me a note when you need me to buy the office furniture.

ahahahhahahahaa

62 posted on 12/13/2001 6:40:31 PM PST by Benson_Carter
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To: Sueann
I wonder if the Secret Service has seen this - I think they would be very interested.

Ditto. Talbot and Lay need to be detained ...

63 posted on 12/13/2001 6:41:14 PM PST by history_matters
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To: Wordkraft
His response was...

Talbot actually RESPONDED? I guess I gotta give him at least a little credit for that. Most of these types just read and delete emails from the public, if they even read them at all.

65 posted on 12/13/2001 7:23:47 PM PST by Timesink
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To: Drango
Here is another advertiser. Powell's books. Don't waste your own money calling them.

Don't waste your time, either. Powell's is a totally left-wing company. They probably printed this cartoon out and posted it on the wall of their office.

66 posted on 12/13/2001 7:27:52 PM PST by Timesink
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To: Timesink
LOL, he was probably just thrilled that someone found his e-mail address and website.
67 posted on 12/13/2001 7:43:03 PM PST by Teacher317
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To: Timesink
Gee. Ms. Lay is a real scream. Why, I can hardly contain my mirth. My sides veritably ache. .......yawn.........

[It might help if the airheaded wench was actually funny.......or even witty; I come up with better stuff than this on my WORST days............]

68 posted on 12/13/2001 7:46:54 PM PST by RightOnline
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To: Timesink
Sheesh! And I can't get a cartooning job anywhere! ;-)
69 posted on 12/13/2001 7:48:22 PM PST by Registered
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To: jonathonandjennifer
Maybe not a crime, but certainly cause for an interview by Secret Service agents (and predicting it in the cartoon doesn't cancel the need for it). Isn't this exactly the type of comment against Hildabeast, etc. that people here are warned not to post?

Yes, it is. The simple fact is that, regardless of what the cartoonist's intentions were, it is against federal law to discuss assassinating the actual President of the United States. You can talk about taking out fictional presidents all you want, as any number of bad movies over the years have shown us. You can talk about the issues raised by a potential assassination of a generic "president" as a concept; otherwise nobody would even be able to discuss how to prevent such an incident from ever occurring. But you cannot talk about bringing physical harm to the real-life man actually holding that office. (Nor can you discuss such things about actual living ex-presidents.) You of course will not actually go to prison, or even be arrested, unless there is reason to believe you constitute a true threat. But you WILL get a visit from your friendly neighborhood sunglasses-wearing dudes who talk into their lapels. The legality of this has been well-established for eons.

Carol Lay thinks she is above this law, or is utterly ignorant of it. Ditto for Salon's editors.

70 posted on 12/13/2001 7:53:51 PM PST by Timesink
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To: Enlightiator
Still, its clearly protected speech here...

No, it isn't. See my response 70. It's not a massive violation, and she's obviously no true threat to George W. Bush. But the law is the law, and established procedures are that anyone that makes "jokes" like this tends to get a visit from the Secret Service, "just to make sure." The fact that it was published doesn't give her some sort of special First Amendment protection.

Not that I care that much. I'm certainly not calling the Secret Service about this; I'm perfectly content with having her actions ripped apart here on FR. But if she does end up having to spend an hour or two explaining herself to those guys, I won't be complaining.

71 posted on 12/13/2001 7:58:30 PM PST by Timesink
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To: unblind
You people need to get a life and a brain. Its obvious she was referring to the first panel about alternate energy when she said she liked the beginning. Its a dumb tasteless cartoon, hardly an attack on the Presidents life. No wonder conservativism is losing ground.

unblind member since December 13th, 2001

72 posted on 12/13/2001 8:01:39 PM PST by Timesink
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To: Drango
Not hate speech. "Freedom of Speech".

Situational ethics, double standards.

Ahhhh, ya gotta love those silly liberals.

73 posted on 12/13/2001 8:02:28 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Howlin
fyi
74 posted on 12/13/2001 8:02:57 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Benson_Carter
lol.
It's a desperate attempt at publicity for another failing dot bomb company.
75 posted on 12/13/2001 8:03:02 PM PST by patriot5186
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To: Timesink; John Robinson; Alamo-Girl; Howlin; Texaggie79; LarryLied; JohnHuang2
LOL! A Salon Editor drops by FR!!
76 posted on 12/13/2001 8:07:28 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Timesink
You would think it would be easy to refrain from shooting a President in a cartoon panel unless it was actually funny. This strip wasn't funny and not especially provocative. Why don't we just ignore the person who created this waste of time?
77 posted on 12/13/2001 8:13:20 PM PST by Joe_October
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
LOL! A Salon Editor drops by FR!!

Not any more! "No current Freeper by that name."

WHEN will they learn: Liberals are welcome here if they post reasoned responses. Post insults and you'll be out on your butt.

78 posted on 12/13/2001 8:16:18 PM PST by Timesink
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Jeepers! Thanks for the heads up!
79 posted on 12/13/2001 8:19:21 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Timesink
I would say that Salon is lame, but then that's stating the obvious, like saying that "the sky is blue", or that "bird have wings" or perhaps "I hate carp." Obvious. :)
80 posted on 12/13/2001 8:24:22 PM PST by Constantine XIII
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