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To: st.smith
Contraception leads to selfishness,

If one were to use Natural Family Planning to prevent pregnancy in the same way one used contraception to prevent pregnancy, would that not lead to selfishness as well?

48 posted on 12/13/2001 5:10:13 PM PST by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur
If one were to use Natural Family Planning to prevent pregnancy in the same way one used contraception to prevent pregnancy, would that not lead to selfishness as well?

Yes it would- it would just be a different form of manipulation of the gift that God has given us. Either one would be wrong. However the distinction that can be made is that selfish manipulation of NFP is the avoidance of a natural act, whereas contraception is the commission of a unnatural act. Each and every act is intrinsically disordered.

49 posted on 12/13/2001 5:47:12 PM PST by st.smith
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To: sinkspur
Ever read Humanae Vitae??? It is bad enough that Catholics must defend the faith against the uninformed non-Catholic. It is pathetic that Catholics must defend the faith against "catholics" such as you. Your side is losing the battle for the Church. Your side is neither reproducing, nor fostering vocations. Who is going to give their life only to be an underpaid social worker preaching an empty easy gospel of dissent, confirming men and women in their mortal sinful lives? The liberal wing of Catholicism is dead.

Leaner perhaps, embittered at the loses inflicted by the liberal wreckovators, still we have won the battle. The ground is ours, orthodoxy is returning. Wonder how long till you see that?

54 posted on 12/13/2001 6:33:05 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: sinkspur
If one were to use Natural Family Planning to prevent pregnancy in the same way one used contraception to prevent pregnancy, would that not lead to selfishness as well?

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Yep, and I believe that's covered in official Church doctrine (though I don't recall where, off the top of my head). The important thing to remember is that even NFP can turn into a mortal sin if couples are manipulating the act of sexual intercourse so that they can buy a bigger house, or take a vacation to Paris, or buy a new Mercedes or something -- abstention has to be for a good, legitimate reason.

64 posted on 12/13/2001 7:16:39 PM PST by Proud2BAmerican
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