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Rep. Issa (R-CA) Among Targets of Jewish Terrorist Bomb Plot (mine)
Reuters via Yahoo ^ | Wednesday December 12 8:03 PM ET | Sarah Tippit

Posted on 12/13/2001 1:50:03 AM PST by newzjunkey

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To: jonatron
Apparently nobody in Israel is jumping to Rubin's, or the JDL's defense, at least according to the following article from today's Jerusalem Post. They know he's a nutcase and a terrorist, not worthy of their support.

09:25) JDL members face jail in Calif. bombing plot By Melissa Radler

NEW YORK-A bomb plot against a Los Angeles mosque and an Arab-American congressman has landed the chairman and another member of the Jewish Defense League in jail, each facing up to 35 years behind bars.

A stash of weapons, explosive powder and bomb components was seized during the Tuesday night arrest of Irv Rubin, 56, who chairs the JDL, an anti-Arab group founded by the late Rabbi Meir Kahane, and Earl Krugel, 59, a member.

Rubin and Krugel were charged yesterday with conspiracy to destroy a building with an explosive and possession of a destructive device after a plot to bomb the King Fahd Mosque and the office of Rep. Darrell Issa, a California Republican of Lebanese descent, was uncovered by a JDL member turned federal informant, US Attorney John Gordon told The Associated Press.

Both men are being held without bail and face up to 35 years in prison.

A preliminary hearing has been set for Dec. 27.

In court papers, Krugel was secretly taped during a JDL meeting saying Arabs need a "wake-up call," and calling on members to act against a "filthy" mosque, AP reported. Meanwhile, attorneys for the two accused the government of entrapment and overreacting to the events of September 11.

Jewish leaders here immediately condemned the JDL as an "extreme fringe" group, and Jewish members of Congress stood in solidarity with Rep. Issa in Washington yesterday as he reacted to the news.

"All agree this was an unusual act by a small band" of people, said Issa.

"Perhaps in another country, we would be adversaries. We're not going to be divided by ethnic backgrounds," he said.

64 posted on 12/13/2001 9:16:44 AM PST by wimpycat
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To: teenager
Back again. Daughter's birthday party :).

Most not have had a good handbook.

Duh. Reams and reams of "handbooks" available on the net. Good ones, too. And you don't need a "handbook" to blow something up - even the retard palies manage that straight out of kindergarden, so to speak. Just dynamite and nails. And one should make bombs out of gunpowder, which really isn't much useful for that? More, have gunpowder delivered by some shadowy henchman when both gunpowder (and dynamite, i think) can be bought over the counter?

Nah. The whole thing reeks. It reeks of Clinton holdovers in the FBI, and it reeks of "Jihad Darrel".

Maybe it's a small mosque

Lol. Sounds like it would have to be a doll-house mosque.

I haven't made a bomb so I can't judge the method

Hehe. Not even dynamite fishing? You've missed out on something :).

65 posted on 12/13/2001 9:22:41 AM PST by Cachelot
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To: Cachelot
I saw on the news last night that they waited for the last bomb component (I don't remember if they mentioned which compenent it was) to be delivered to his house (or wherever it was the plot was being planned) before the feds moved in to make their arrests.
66 posted on 12/13/2001 9:27:57 AM PST by wimpycat
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To: newzjunkey
THE REST OF THE STORY

 

NEWS FROM:
CONGRESSMAN DARRELL ISSA
Serving California's 48th District
1725 Longworth House Office Building, Washington,
DC 20515 FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE CONTACT: DALE NEUGEBAUER 202-225-3906
November 28, 2001

ISSA DENOUNCES FALSE TEHRAN TIMES STORY

Propaganda Designed to Undermine Anti-Terror Mission

WASHINGTON, DC - Representative Darrell Issa today denounced as false a recent Tehran Times story (11/19/01) sourced to the Iranian government news agency (IRNA), that claimed the lawmaker had said the Iranian backed terrorist group Hezbollah was "legitimate" and had never committed terrorist acts. Issa recently led an official delegation of U.S. lawmakers to the region to solicit support for the U.S. War on Terrorism and to explore opportunities for progress in the Middle East Peace effort.

"The story printed in the Tehran Times is an outright lie," Issa declared. "They made it up. Our message was just the opposite. We repeatedly called on Hezbollah's state sponsors to pressure the group to renounce terrorism."

The three major western news services, Associated Press, Reuters and Agence France Press all reported Issa's call for Hezbollah to renounce terrorism, which was repeated as the group's visit to several Middle East countries progressed.

Issa made the statements in response to concerns raised by heads of state in Syria and Lebanon who objected to the United States listing Hezbollah as a terrorist organization of global-reach. "We made it very clear that renouncing terrorism was a requirement for removal from the target list," Issa explained. Excerpts from the wire service articles appear below:


Headline: Hezbollah must renounce terrorism:

US Congressman US Congressman Darrell Issa called here on Saturday for Lebanon's fundamentalist Shiite Muslim Hezbollah group to give up "terrorism." "Hezbollah must renounce terrorism," Issa, a Republican from California, said on a visit to Damascus with a congressional delegation. Hezbollah, which is sponsored by both Syria and Iran, was slapped on a US State Department list of terrorist organisations on November 2, with the aim of freezing the movement's financial assets.

-- Agence France Presse, 11/17/01


U.S. congressmen ask Lebanon to rein in Hizbollah

BEIRUT, Nov 18 (Reuters) - A U.S. Congressional delegation urged Lebanon on Sunday to end a standoff with Washington over its Hizbollah guerrillas by reining the group in and ensuring it stays out of the U.S.-led war on terrorism.

The comments follow a U.S. decision earlier this month to put Hizbollah on a list of groups subject to financial sanctions as part of the anti-terror campaign launched after the September 11 attacks on New York and Washington.

From the Associated Press, 11/17/01

The delegation's leader, Darrell Issa, R-Calif., told reporters that for the United States to remove Hezbollah from its list of terrorist organizations, the Lebanese-based group must renounce terrorism and confine itself to its humanitarian and parliamentary activities.

Hezbollah, which receives Syrian support, was the principal guerrilla force opposing the Israeli occupation of south Lebanon until the Israelis withdrew last year. It continues to attack Israeli troops over a tiny parcel of disputed land on Lebanon's southern border. However, it also operates as a political party, with nine members in parliament, and provides social services to low-income people.

Issa believes the Tehran Times story was an attempt by Hezbollah's Iranian backers to discredit the U.S. delegation. "We were delivering a very tough message," Issa said. "They didn't like it, so they made up their own and put our names on it."

Issa led a four member congressional delegation to the region on a trip sponsored by the House International Relations Committee. The lawmakers met with heads of state and government leaders in Syria, Lebanon, Egypt and Israel as well as representatives of the Palestinian Authority.

"We worked closely with U.S. State Department and Embassy officials in each country to ensure that the message we delivered was consistent with U.S. foreign policy and our interests in the region," Issa explained. "As a result, we had a tremendously successful trip."

69 posted on 12/13/2001 9:41:32 AM PST by Jimbaugh
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To: newzjunkey
I'm about as much of an Israel hawk as anybody on this forum, and I hope they put these @**holes away forever. It's a good thing that they caught them before they could bomb anyone, not just for the lives saved, but for the sake of Israel. The adminstaration and the public have finally come around to accepting the truth that peace in the middle-east cannot be acheived by creating a new terror-state in the heart of Israel. Had these people succeded in bombing a Mosque and a US CONGRESSMAN'S OFFICE(!), that support would have vanished. These people were a far greater threat to Israel than any Arab terrorist.
70 posted on 12/13/2001 9:56:45 AM PST by Hugin
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To: Jimbaugh
Hey Jimbaugh, what are trying to do, mess up a perfectly good propaganda thread with some facts? Aren't you aware that all Americans of Arab descent should be either nuked or permanently interned? And while we're on a roll, how about we get all the Americans of hispanic descent just for good measure. /sarcasm
71 posted on 12/13/2001 10:13:13 AM PST by jmp702
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To: Hugin
I'm about as much of an Israel hawk as anybody on this forum, and I hope they put these @**holes away forever. It's a good thing that they caught them before they could bomb anyone, not just for the lives saved, but for the sake of Israel. The adminstaration and the public have finally come around to accepting the truth that peace in the middle-east cannot be acheived by creating a new terror-state in the heart of Israel. Had these people succeded in bombing a Mosque and a US CONGRESSMAN'S OFFICE(!), that support would have vanished. These people were a far greater threat to Israel than any Arab terrorist.

Thank you for dumping those thugs overboard and not trying to equivocate or make any excuses, or accuse anyone of entrapment or a vast anti-Israeli conspiracy. I don't think any more ink or effort needs to be wasted on their behalf. Nobody, but nobody, is going to get away with attacking a US Congressman, I don't care who they are or how lousy the congressman is. I don't think, however, that most Americans have quite given up the idea of a Palestinian state...not yet, anyway.

But I bet Arafat is shi**ing bricks right now--this is a new move on Israel's part, and I think even his European apologists aren't going to help him out. The Israelis haven't quite backed away from the peace talks yet, either, just Arafat.

72 posted on 12/13/2001 10:39:13 AM PST by wimpycat
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To: wimpycat
As another staunch defender of Israel, I think Rubin and company should get a fair trial and, if convicted, spend many, many, years--to the end of his life--making big rocks into gravel. If they'd actually killed anyone, I would want them hanged from a freeway overpass with a sign saying "I'M A TERRORISTIC MURDEROUS SCUMBAG!"
73 posted on 12/13/2001 10:45:18 AM PST by Poohbah
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To: newzjunkey
Issa is a powerful defender of the 2nd Amendment we are lucky to have him.

I wonder if Debbie Schlussel will tone down her hate articles against the Congressman now.
74 posted on 12/13/2001 10:50:11 AM PST by mv1
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To: plastic
> Äre they the first involved in terrorist attacks inside the USA?

WHAT terrorist attacks, please? Which mosque was bombed? Who got slapped? Did Issa's papers get blown out into the neighborhood? What?
plastique, what are those 2 little dots above your A? Which is your first language? Or second? Is that a special hateboard? Clouseau wants to know.

75 posted on 12/13/2001 10:51:56 AM PST by NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
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To: Poohbah
Excerpt from Washington Post article Read Entire Article Here

Mainstream Jewish groups applauded law enforcement for the arrests and denounced the JDL and its members.

"The Jewish Defense League is a tiny organization that employs tactics that are counter to the values of the Jewish community," said Rabbi Gary Greenebaum, a director of the American Jewish Committee.

76 posted on 12/13/2001 11:01:58 AM PST by wimpycat
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To: NixNatAVanG InDaBurgh
From the same Washington Post Article (link to article is in my post #76)

In the wiretaps, Krugel and Rubin tell the informant that the bombings should strike buildings and not human targets -- "because they still had not heard the end of the Alex Odeh incident," a reference to the ongoing investigation into the 1985 murder in Santa Ana, Calif., of Alexander Odeh, regional director of the American Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee.

Odeh was killed when a bomb delivered to his office blew up. A $1 million reward for information leading to the arrest of anyone connected with the Odeh bombing was announced today.

77 posted on 12/13/2001 11:04:43 AM PST by wimpycat
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To: Illbay
One year after Odeh's murder, an FBI analysis said "certain evidence" implicated former associates of Rubin's who have since emigrated to Israel.
JDL Leader Accused in Mosque Bomb Plot, L.A. Times
79 posted on 12/13/2001 11:10:42 AM PST by mv1
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