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To: nopardons
Pharoah's magicians turning staffs into serpents was a magic trick, and I believe you when you say it is still done today, though admit to not knowing how to perform the trick, nor caring. I suspect it is a form of mental suggestion.

Moses turning his staff into serpent was not a magical trick. Remember that Moses' staff ate all their staffs. Moses' power came directly and only from God.

Outside of reading the Bible, what do I know about witches? That as people, I'm sure some of them are well meaning individuals. You are right, I have not studied witchcraft and am no expert on it. I'm sure you know a lot more about it than I do. I do know enough about it from here and there (sorry, no bibliography will be provided) to know that it is definitely not something I want to study.

Ridicule me if you will, but I am firmly convinced that the Bible is our sufficient guide to life. I appreciate your offer to educate me on witchcraft -- I really do, because obviously it is something that means a lot to you -- but no thank you.

No, I certainly do not believe that Queen Elizabeth worships the devil. Did the article say that? I guess I should have read it more carefully. (Sorry.) I read the first few paragraphs and agreed with them. My apolgies if I've been defending the position that QE is a devil worshiper. I can see how someone would think that position is a bit off.

93 posted on 12/12/2001 9:37:48 PM PST by germanshepherd
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To: germanshepherd
Ridicule me if you will, but I am firmly convinced that the Bible is our sufficient guide to life.

That being said, I have to ask...do you feel that people are reading the Harry Potter series as a guide to life? Or are they reading it simply because it's something to read? Or is it a mixed bag, some reading it for entertainment, and some reading it as a guide to life?

If you stand against the novels because some may be reading it as a guide to life, then surely, you must stand against any sort of self-help book that isn't the Bible, after all, people don't read those for entertainment.

Do you stand against Stephen King's novels or the writings of Dean Koontz?

I read The Once and Future King years ago. Arthur is transformed by Merlin (a wizard living backwards in time) to different types of animals, in order to gain experience in different situations. There was a lot of magic in this book, but it didn't lead me into witchcraft.

As I said to someone in freepmail...it's a book, for Pete's sake. It's an adventure story. If it were "Harry Potter's Guide to Witchcraft for the Complete Idiot (includes chalk for your pentagrams!)," then I might be concerned.

104 posted on 12/12/2001 9:49:34 PM PST by Tennessee_Bob
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To: germanshepherd
The staff to serpent trick is really a hoot ! The magician puts a huge snake to sleep ( it's like rubbing the belly of an aligator, who then goes to sleep ) , the snake become rigid, and the magician use it as a staff. Then, he rubs the head of the snake ( which is used as the handle ) , and the snake wakes up. GOD had NOTHING to do with Moses's use if this same trick, which he leared how to do, whilst a boy growing up in the palace. except that GOD told him to do it. Moses's snake ate the others snakes, as snakes are wont to do.

Witchcraft is NOT dear to me; however , through a post grad course in Comparative Religions ( hey, don't blame me for the name of the course ) and outside readings , I know enough about it, to tell you that this entire article is hogwash , you believe in fairy tales as reality, and if the Bible is the ONLY thing upon which you base your way of life, then WHY are you on line, and not out there doing what it says you are to do, in the Bible ? Do you follow the OT and the NT, or just the NT ? If both, then do you eat pork, shrimp, and lobster ? Do you, in other words do ALL that is commanded in Deuteronomy, and other laws books?

You did NOT read the entire article, yet, you have decided that the article is correct and you have ageed with it. The atircle plainly states that THE ROYALS IF ENGLAND WORSHIP SATAN, AND THE ENGLAND IS AND HAS ALWAYS BEEN A HOTBED OF WWITCHCRAFT . FYI ... the monarch of England, in this case, Queen Elizabeth II , is THE HEAD OF THE CHURCH OF ENGLAND! The Church of England is NOT a SATANTIC, DEVIL WORSHIPPING religion !

And you wonder WHY people here , think that you have a problem with gullibility ?

112 posted on 12/12/2001 10:05:25 PM PST by nopardons
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