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I welcome your questions and will try to answer them as best I can in a few words. There is much reading to be done by people much more learned than I am who can explain better. I recommend reading some books if you are interested. It is entirely Biblical.

That being said, yes, you are right, Jesus is the risen Lord, I agree 100%. Interesting we are in the Christmas season and there are mangers all over showing the Infant Jesus. We all know that Jesus is not an infant anymore so why do we depict Him as such? It helps us remember.

Our Lady of Guadalupe is also known as Our Lady of the Americas. Perhaps God in His wisdom chose to present Mary pregnant because He forsaw that the great evil of abortion would shadow our land. Also, there are pictures of Jesus with His Mother when he was an infant, a child, a young man, after His death and after His resurrection. I suppose only God knows why He chose to depict Our Lady this way. I don't believe that it takes anything away from Jesus, do you? After all, Jesus was concieved in Mary's womb.

The Church that was built was not 'for' Mary. I'm sure you've noticed that most Catholic Church's are named after saints, I for instance attend St. Anthony of Padua, we honor saints by naming Church's after them, thats all. It is not 'for' them, the Church's are for the people to come together in. Jesus is always present in the tabernacle.

Where is the Gospel message of Jesus in Mary's womb? (I think that was your last question) In Luke. When Mary went 'with haste' to her cousin Elizabeth and John the Baptist was sanctified when Mary spoke to Elizabeth. "the moment your greeting sounded in my ears, the child within me leapt for joy."

Perhaps you will hear Our Lady's voice and Jesus will bless you also, as He sanctified John the Baptist, when He was still in His Mother's womb.

Hello again. :) You said

We are human, and we tend to need remembrences for different things. We commemorate many things for various reasons - that was not my question. I asked why MARY would present herself this way. If your answer is that possibly she herself knew that we would need a reminder, then I say that there are far more suitable reminders of the gospel - namely the risen Lord Himself...which brings us back around to my initial question - if Jesus is not shown in the message, how will others know He is there?

No, I think you misunderstood. I was not asking where in Mary's womb was the gospel message, I was asking where in the Guadalupe message from Mary do we find the gospel message. Where in Mary's words do we find that she explains that Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life? Rather we see her claiming to be everything that we need in and of herself. If you think that is a stretch, I reference the words of your post -

"Listen and let it penetrate your heart, my dear little son, do not be troubled or weighed down with grief. Do not fear any illness or vexation, anxiety or pain. Am I not here who am your Mother? Are you not under my shadow and protection? Am I not your fountain of life? Are you not in the folds of my mantle? In the crossing of my arms? Is there anything else you need?"

Here she says that she can keep him from illness, worry and pain. She can protect him and maintain his life. She asks if there is anything else that he needs, totally suggesting that she can provide it, whatever it may be. NO mention of Jesus Christ as the provider of anything. One not familiar with Christianity would in no way glean His presence in this message. It is simply not possible.

But to answer your answer - I see nothing in your Luke reference which indicates the gospel message as we find it in, for example, John 3.

One other comment, as I read again the words of Mary, with regard to the temple you said

However, Mary herself said

"...I ardently desire that a temple be built here for me where I will show and offer all my love, my compassion, my help and my protection to the people. I am your merciful Mother, the Mother of all who live united in this land, and of all mankind, of all those who love me, of those who cry to me, of those who have confidence in me. Here I will hear there weeping and sorrows, and will remedy and alleviate their sufferings, necessites and misfortunes."

SHE will offer all HER love, HER compassion, HER help, HER protection. He is to love HER, cry out to HER, have confidence in HER. SHE will hear their crying, SHE will ease their pain, SHE will provide their necessities and SHE will rectify their misfortunes. She said she wanted a temple built FOR HER, and then proceeded to say what SHE would do in it if obeyed, not what Jesus would do, not even what Jesus would do through her. It certainly sounds like the temple is for her, and once again, Jesus is sorely lacking, and to the uninformed potential convert, there is NO way that Jesus would be found in what is given.

Thanks for the response.