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To: MarkWar
You may be right, but I'll play devil's advocate:

So we flood the airlines with air marshalls. The perps watch the news and hear about it, fly, with their legal boxcutters, to California, fly back and wait. They are not on a set schedule for the date of the operation, only within the operation. After all, supposedly the plan was first discovered in some Phillipine thing in '95, if I remember correctly.

Unless we knew who the perps were, just like now, everything else is a matter of when. The level of evidence that would have been required pre-9/11 to convince an agency that what was going to happen was real would almost have to be sufficient to nail the actual perpetrators.

45 posted on 12/12/2001 9:51:33 AM PST by m1911
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To: m1911
>...You may be right, but I'll play devil's advocate... Unless we knew who the perps were... The level of evidence that would have been required pre-9/11 to convince an agency that what was going to happen was real would almost have to be sufficient to nail the actual perpetrators.

Well, right now, as I've said, this isn't my favorite tin foil topic, so I'm not inclined to dwell on it. (Although it's part of my favorite tin foil topic and, if I put up a thread on _that_ I'll be discussing my crazy view of 911 in more detail.)

On the other hand, there is something that seems worth saying. Because of Echelon and informants and another issue, I'm strongly inclined to believe that some agency(ies) knew exactly who these perps were. AND, in matters where there is "national security" involved, government agencies have _always_ had immense room for taking action. I don't mean just the FBI or CIA or NSA. There are others. It's my understanding that if a Federal agent had reason to believe that "national security" was threatened, that agent/agency(ies) could have done _just about anything_ to resolve the issue. If they'd wanted to. (Nobody knows how much of "The Secret Man : An American Warrior's Uncensored Story,"by Frank Dux is real. Dux certainly is. His skills certainly are. I don't find his alleged domestic exploits too unbelievable. As he relates them, some are so mundane that you'd think he'd go for more flash if he were going to lie. At any rate, I'm sure that people like Dux were available to deal with a threat to "national security" if people in power had wanted to.)

But I believe there are major developments to come in the near future that will make the scope of this situation more clear. If I were going to put up a thread (which I'm thinking about), I'd be stressing something around December 24th.

Mark W.

67 posted on 12/12/2001 1:05:09 PM PST by MarkWar
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