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To: Nachum
You should not paint all Muslims as incapable of a peaceful coexistence. There are too many times in history when they controlled the region and were quite open to let people of all faiths worship there. I quoted the sources before, just too lazy to do it again. Just peruse "Jerusalem: Sacred City of Mankind" by Teddy Kollek & Moshe Pearlman, reprinted 1975, p. 162/5. Same can be said for South Spain of the Moors, and Palestine, pre-Zionist movement era.

Finally, just want to say, solution to our world and its mess is always an individual choice. We try our best in the political realm, but must make the spiritual battle on individual grounds. This world has never been perfect and I dare say, never will be. But some individuals, in the midst of this morass, have achieved a level of perfection(divine or spiritual) most of us can only dream of.

As for politics, I believe Socrates said no honest man can go into politics, for if you are honest and try to stay in politics, you will be killed.

71 posted on 12/14/2001 3:40:16 AM PST by ExiledInTaiwan
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To: ExiledInTaiwan
Of course I do not paint all Muslims as "incapable of peacefull coexistance". Unfortunately, the experience of Jews from the time that they have returned to the holy land in the mid 1800's on forward paints a different picture about this particular place.

For whatever reasons, Jerusalem and the entirety of the holy land is different. The treatment of Jews by the Arab population was and is different. Jews have lived in "peace" more or less in various middle eastern countries for many centuries. Unfortunately Jews were also subject to expulsions, horrible decrees, and various trauma over the millenia. Living at the whim and edict of a variety of despots. If you want to call that living in "peace", than that is a curious definition.

The various Moslem regimes that have held power over the Holy Land have held Jews in contempt, treating the remnants of the holiest sites of Jerusalem's temple as a garbage dump or worse. When Jews began to assert themselves in any way, the Moslem response in the Holy Land was violence. It was and it still is. I believe this is a cultural phenomenom. There is no reasoning or negotiating with it. It is a difficult thing for a westerner to comprehend, but this is how it is.

72 posted on 12/14/2001 8:28:27 AM PST by Nachum
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