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hillary clinton blames hubby for terrorism (NB: SHE knew nuttin') (Meet the Press, 12-09-01)
Meet the Press | 12-10-01 | Mia T

Posted on 12/10/2001 6:31:16 AM PST by Mia T

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1 posted on 12/10/2001 6:31:16 AM PST by Mia T
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To: Mia T
Gothic chic---rats(you took out<---"I didn't have sex with THAT women/hillary")!

Put it back!

2 posted on 12/10/2001 6:36:41 AM PST by f.Christian
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That pitchfork is still there. Check it out in my last MTP thread.

hillary clinton to be on Meet the Press today

Will Tim Russert do an Alan Colmes?

3 posted on 12/10/2001 6:55:51 AM PST by Mia T
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To: Mia T
Legacy the video
4 posted on 12/10/2001 7:06:14 AM PST by big bad easter bunny
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But, but, but.....I thought we were getting a two-for-one...
"when you get(elect) him...you get me" 60 Minutes (January 1992).

All those stories of her sitting in a staff meetings, occupying the West Wing VP office...were not true??

As it turned out, one of the worst bargains for this country.

5 posted on 12/10/2001 7:14:21 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen
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To: Stand Watch Listen
 

But, but, but.....I thought we were getting a two-for-one...
 
"when you get(elect) him...you get me" 60 Minutes (January 1992).
All those stories of her sitting in a staff meetings, occupying the West Wing VP office...were not true??
 
As it turned out, one of the worst bargains for this country.--Stand Watch Listen
 

At its core it is the description of the human double helix gone terribly awry, of a denatured protein grotesquely twisted, of two mutant, tangled strands of DNA, the basest imaginable of base pairs linked permanently, as firmly as guanine to cytosine, bill inexorably to hillary and conversely, doing what they do best, and doing it relentlessly.

 
Killing.
Killing insidiously.
Killing as they pose and pander and feel our pain.

Mia T, INVASION OF THE BODY SNATCHERS

 

The only way they can win is to convince people that we're space aliens.

--bill clinton

 
 
June 9, 1999
 
Peggy Noonan's excellent piece in yesterday's Wall Street Journal is really the story of the death of democracy. At its core it is the description of the human double helix gone terribly awry, of a denatured protein grotesquely twisted, of two mutant, tangled strands of DNA, the basest imaginable of base pairs linked permanently, as firmly as guanine to cytosine, bill inexorably to hillary and conversely, doing what they do best, and doing it relentlessly.
 
Killing.
Killing insidiously.
Killing as they pose and pander and feel our pain.
 
My only complaint is with Peggy Noonan's title.
The Mad Boomer, doesn't begin to capture candidate clinton considered separately or even taken as the self-anointed "twofer," permanently conjoined at that cavity conspicuously empty except for ego, that place where brain and soul and guts and heart normally reside.
 
This is not to say that she -- that they -- are not both quite mad and of that self-indulgent, arrogantly, ignorantly solipsistic age sandwiched flatly between yesterday's innocence and tomorrow's insouciance. Rather, it is that their madness and their boomerism don't even begin to explain their noxious influence: The cloying, internally inconsistent clinton calculus. The unspoken clinton threats. They permeate the atmosphere like a coiling miasma, choking off all freedom.
 
Even in New York.
Especially in New York.
When she wrote "The New Colossus," Emma Lazarus hardly had in mind this pair of mutant, deadly, twisted aliens.
 
So forget Arkansas-Illinois carpetbaggery and standard issue muckraking. The clintons are aliens of quite another sort. They are extrinsic, not of this world. They are inhuman. They are dehumanizing.
 
You may recall that the first act of this story of two degenerates maintained by iterating idiots, farce of farce ad infinitum, was generated quite by accident by iterated AlGoreRhythm, who, it should be noted, is now himself the object of iterated calculation by said degenerates who want iteration 2004 all for themselves.
 
And thus the odd bit of bloody Gore in Act II: The ugly sight of a corrupt, bottom-heavy hillary self-impaled on the horns of a Treason-Dilemma- masquerading-as-a-Third-Term-Dilemma-masquerading-as-a-Senate-stampede, for example, or bill's recent unsolicited, underwhelming Times interview on the Gore candidacy.
 
Act I was called "The Cook, The Thief, His Wife and Her Lover." Ostensibly the tale of the wife of a bloodthirsty crime boss who finds romance with a bland bookseller between courses at her husband's restaurant, it was in fact the Thyestean and moveable -- yet unmoving -- feast of hillary clinton at her husband's sham restitution. (Note the reciprocity. The sham restitution in Act II is all hillary's.)
 
Food, color coding, sex, murder, torture and cannibalism were the exotic (if mostly horizontal) fare in this beautifully filmed but brutally uncompromising modern memoir which passed as ancient fable about nouveau riche rapacity.
Not for the faint at heart, Purple Hearts or queazy stomachs, this depiction of the gross debasement of America was heavily peppered with irony and dark humor throughout.
 
Although she baked no cookies, didn't do illicit land or cattle deals and stood by no man, hillary clinton starred in the triple role of the Cook, the Thief and his Wife. Her lover was played at once vaporously and in workmanlike fashion by the ghost of Eleanor Roosevelt, with Janet Reno, between her stints rendering intermittent injustice for the Husband, as the reliable stand-in. Sidney Blumenthal was the stand-in for the Cook and Craig Livingstone the stand-in for the Thief. The last-minute addition of Christopher Hitchens as the snitch was a stroke of absolute genius notwithstanding its cerebral accident, its predictable-if-perfect pitch and its facile alliteration.
 
Although Act I had no rating, the new clinton soccer-mom directive will require a photo ID for any viewer without independent proof of illegal alien DNC or DNA sequencing.
 
 
In Act II, rabid anti-clinton voters, roughly 33% of the U.S. populace according to as-yet-unpodded pollsters, become increasingly aware that they are disappearing in droves and being replaced by alien pod replicas which have their physical attributes but lack all anti-clinton affect.
 
If Act I was a thinly veiled allegory about naked clintonism, then Act II is a parable about the plan for world domination by the Establishment, aged hippies in pinstripes all, with their infantile, solipsistic world view amazingly untouched by time.

INVASION OF THE BODY SNATCHERS

 


6 posted on 12/10/2001 7:29:51 AM PST by Mia T
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To: Mia T
Another brilliant post.

Mia T, you are indeed incredible.

7 posted on 12/10/2001 8:02:57 AM PST by IVote2
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Bump! Amazing how the evidence that Black GW Bush votes were disqualified in Florida, versus those for Al Gore, at a 60-to-1 rate. Pod people makes as much sense as anything.
8 posted on 12/10/2001 10:14:04 AM PST by Paul Ross
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To: Mia T
Once again mia, you get it right, and artistically too!
9 posted on 12/10/2001 10:29:31 AM PST by Paulus Invictus
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Brasil counted 44 "you know"s from Hillary on Meet The Press. I stand by my count of 50, and most of them were, "you know, Tim..."

Her clever little "you know" trick unconsciously convinces listeners that what she's saying is accepted gospel, not contrived and self-serving spin. Adding "Tim" as the tagline, makes listeners assume he's in agreement with what she's spewing forth...and "you know", he probably is.

10 posted on 12/10/2001 10:59:03 AM PST by YaYa123
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To: Mia T
Tim Russert got a sore shoulder on Imus this morning...he was patting himself so hard on the back for the last question he asked Cheney.

Mr. Pumpkin Head asked; Mr. Vice President, if this young 20 year old kid could get inside the Taliban, why haven't our intelligence officers been able to do it? He and Imus compared the pumpkin man to Columbo for that one.

Mr. Pumpkin Head even took kudos for asking Hillary if she would run for president. He thinks we're stupid!! His merely asking the question legitimizes the possibility that she should! It's the same flack catching, toady task Pumpkin Man performed for Hillary so that she could run for the senate.

11 posted on 12/10/2001 11:10:33 AM PST by YaYa123
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To: Paulus Invictus; IVote2
It is very significant that hillary clinton didn't deny clinton culpability for the terrorism..., notwithstanding tired tactics (if you can't pass the buck, spread the blame) and chronic self-exclusion. ("I knew nuttin'.")

hillary clinton blames hubby for terrorism (NB: SHE knew nuttin')

(Meet the Press, 12-09-01)

 

"I did not have any involvement in the pardons that were granted or not granted," insisted Sen. KnowNothing, seeming to forget her presence at the New-Square/Oval-Office schmooze that secured pardons for the four Hasidic felons who set up a phony school in Brooklyn to swindle the government out of millions intended for the poor.

Mia T, Sen. KnowNothing Victim Clinton Effectively Pleads 5TH in Press Conference by Invoking Spousal Privilege

Sen. KnowNothing Victim Clinton Holds News Conference
EFFECTIVELY PLEADS 5TH BY INVOKING SPOUSAL PRIVILEGE

by Mia T

 

WASHINGTON- February 22. Sen. KnowNothing Victim Clinton held her premiere press conference today on Capitol Hill, ostensibly to answer questions about the peddling of White House pardons by her brother and her campaign treasurer. Notably absent among the press queries were any about her own involvement not only in those pardons, but in the larger universe of sold pardons--the incipient clinton scandal du jour--Pardongate.

KnowNothing's brother, Hugh Rodham, secured two of the 141 clinton midnight pardons, one for a cocaine kingpin and the other for a snake-oil swindler. Rodham netted a quick $400,000 for his "work" according to various rodhams and clintons and their assorted lawyers. KnowNothing's campaign treasurer, William Cunningham III, himself a law partner of longtime KnowNothing adviser Harold Ickes, helped obtain last-minute pardons for two convicted felons.

LA FAMIGLIA

Displaying a willingness to throw her brother (along with her husband) to the wolves, Sen. Victim Clinton was quick to make a distinction between her big, bad brother's pardon "work" and that of her campaign treasurer, "a fine lawyer and a fine man." The "family" connection of brother Rodham to Clinton made brother Rodham's "work" bad, bad, bad, whereas the campaign treasurer Cunningham's connection to the senator and her campaign coffers made his securing of two pardons in record time a sterling example of highminded, effective public service.

KnowNothing is apparently not the best of thinkers. If the "family" connection makes lobbying for cocaine-kingpin and snake-oil-swindler pardons bad, bad, bad for brother Rodham, then the "family" connection makes lobbying for the Hasidim 4 (see Keating 5) pardons bad, badder, baddest for the wife, First Lady and senator-elect. Moreover, pardons for votes is arguably worse than pardons for dough.

EFFECTIVELY PLEADS 5TH BY INVOKING SPOUSAL PRIVILEGE

KnowNothing specifically declined to answer when asked whether she discussed the pardons with her husband, effectively pleading the 5th. Turning aside questions about the pardon decisions her husband had made, she told reporters they should address those issues with him and his staff. She refused to say whether he should agree to appear voluntarily before congressional committees investigating the pardons. Interestingly, no one asked her whether she would agree to appear voluntarily before those same congressional committees.

I DIDN'T HAVE SEX WITH THAT PARDON

"I did not have any involvement in the pardons that were granted or not granted," insisted Sen. KnowNothing, seeming to forget her presence at the New-Square/Oval-Office schmooze that secured pardons for the four Hasidic felons who set up a phony school in Brooklyn to swindle the government out of millions intended for the poor.

RESURRECTING RUFF

KnowNothing noted that her"best memory" was that she never spoke to her brother or to Mr. Cunningham about the pardons. With variations of "I don't have a memory" and "my best memory, and avoiding the more obvious "I don't recall" and "my best recollection," KnowNothing reprised the Ruffian standard used during the clinton years to commit perjury without penalty.

I GET LETTERS

...or more precisely, envelopes. During her denials of involvement in any of the pardons, KnowNothing made the curious claim: "People handed me envelopes, I passed them on [and never opened a single one. Honest.]"

I AM VICTIM

Reprising the role of victim that enabled her to win a senate seat in spite of record-high personal negatives and public failures, the senator peppered her answers about big, bad Hugh (understanding that the subtext was big, bad Bill) with "saddened" and "disappointed" and "heartbroken" and "shocked."

UTTER CONTEMPT FOR THE PEOPLE

This session today was cut short by a staffer when reporters appeared dissatisfied by Senator KnowNothing's lack of candor.

In the end, this press conference full of poses, poll-tested phrases and prevarication was just another display of the clintons' utter contempt for the people. Bill Clinton committed the same error last Sunday in his shameless, lie-filled New York Times Pardongate Apologia.

The clintons' fundamental error: They are too arrogant and dim-witted to understand that the demagogic process in this fiberoptic age isn't about counting spun heads; it's about not discounting circumambient brains.

 
 

HEY, HEY MARY JO!
by Mia T
 
So many pardons 4 sale.
 
So many rodhams & clintons to nail.
 
Hey, hey Mary Jo!
 
Can you spell R-I-C-O?

 
Don't lose
Your head
To gain a minute
You need your head
Your brains are in it.
--an old roadside ad, Pushme-Pullyou
 
 
 
 

12 posted on 12/10/2001 11:28:20 AM PST by Mia T
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To: YaYa123
LOL.
 
It's actually quite ironic...
A "you know" tic from a KnowNothing hick.
 
While I agree with you that the device is self-serving, "you know" is a marker for the uneducated and the inarticulate. There are less demeaning ways to achieve the ends you describe.
 

(OTOH, she isn't called Senator Dim Bulb for nothing.) ;)


13 posted on 12/10/2001 11:47:50 AM PST by Mia T
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To: YaYa123
 
Tim Russert got a sore shoulder on Imus this morning...he was patting himself so hard on the back for the last question he asked Cheney.
 
Mr. Pumpkin Head asked; Mr. Vice President, if this young 20 year old kid could get inside the Taliban, why haven't our intelligence officers been able to do it? He and Imus
compared the pumpkin man to Columbo for that one.
 
Mr. Pumpkin Head even took kudos for asking Hillary if she would run for president. He thinks we're stupid!! His merely asking the question legitimizes the possibility that
she should! It's the same flack catching, toady task Pumpkin Man performed for Hillary so that she could run for the senate.
 

11 posted on 12/10/01 12:10 PM Pacific by YaYa123

 

I actually thought Russert's question about the 20-year-old traitor was quite stupid. A kid who is documentably brainwashed in Yemen since sweet 16 is relatively transparent and poses virtually no risk to the Taliban...as opposed to an intelligence operative...

You are absolutely right. The function of the run-for-president question is to legitimize an absurdity.

In fact, I would wager that the mediocre, low-center-of-gravity fishwife REQUIRES that the run-for-president question be asked in any interview.


14 posted on 12/10/2001 12:36:21 PM PST by Mia T
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To: Mia T
Please dont get me wrong,I think the WHOLE ADMINISTRATION Should be HUNG FOR TREASON!!!!! BUTI am no fan of the communist RICO statute and a worse fan of this DICTATOR SHIP ANTI CONSTITUTION PATRIOT ACT NAZI PROPAGANDA *^%#$!If one reads the definition of "International Terrorist" on will see all that foreign this and foreign that bunk should be stricken from it.Look through it and see the "KNOW YOUR CUSTOMER LAW" the Clintoons were trying to get passed and a few other things.Is Shrub any different? "ITS THE CONSTITUTION STUPID" Its funny how when one reads Quotes from the founders one can see what's going on in government today.The difference is the Politburo has taken control of the schools and the youngins aint lernin about the 10 planks of the communist manifesto and how ALL 10 planks are implemented in law today in the US!

COMRADE DAGOSAVITCH
COMMUNIST AGENT
OCCUPIED USSA
ZEIG HEIL^5

15 posted on 12/10/2001 12:56:56 PM PST by DAGO
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To: Mia T
Take the loony test... did he have sex-violence/that woman??
16 posted on 12/10/2001 4:06:54 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: Mia T
Mia, the poor woman just didn't know.. ya know? She has a problem about this.. some things she knows because she IS the smartest woman in the world, but on this, she just doesn't know...
17 posted on 12/10/2001 5:52:58 PM PST by IVote2
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To: YaYa123
While I agree with you that the device is self-serving, "you know" is a
marker for the uneducated and the inarticulate. There are less demeaning
ways to achieve the ends you describe.
 
But on second thought, YaYa, this is the -- uh -- woman who was hoisted to power on her husband's zipper...
 

The clinton zipper vitiated by obvious spilth. . .

 
 
 
 
 
Bill Clinton may not be the worst president America has had, but surely he is the worst person to be president. There is reason to believe that he is a rapist ("You better get some ice on that," Juanita Broaddrick says he told her concerning her bit lip), and that he bombed a country to distract attention from legal difficulties arising from his glandular life, and that. ... Furthermore, the bargain that he and his wife call a marriage refutes the axiom that opposites attract. Rather, she, as much as he, perhaps even more so, incarnates Clintonism

---GEORGE WILL, Sleaze, the sequel

The rape took place while Bill was running for governor. Hillary came bursting into the room to talk to two people, one of whom I personally know. She said "You won't believe what this &^%$#@#$%^ did now. He tried to rape some b*tch."

It was the job of these two to squelch the story.

doug from upland to Shaun Hannity, WABC, 10/16/00

You had questioned the gentleman who drove you and Mr. Clinton from the airport. You asked him about me and if I would be at the gathering. Do you remember? You told the driver, "Bill has talked so much about Juanita", and that you were so anxious to meet me. Well, you wasted no time. As soon as you entered the room, you came directly to me and grabbed my hand. Do you remember how you thanked me, saying "we want to thank you for everything that you do for Bill". At that point, I was pretty shaken and started to walk off. Remember how you kept a tight grip on my hand and drew closer to me? You repeated your statement, but this time with a coldness and look that I have seen many times on television in the last eight years. You said, "Everything you do for Bill". You then released your grip and I said nothing and left the gathering.

What did you mean, Hillary? Were you referring to my keeping quiet about the assault I had suffered at the hands of your husband only two weeks before? Were you warning me to continue to keep quiet? We both know the answer to that question.

JUANITA BROADDRICK, AN OPEN LETTER TO HILLARY CLINTON

"I believed that he had done it. I believed her that she had been raped 20 years ago. And it was vicious rapes, it was twice at the same event." Asked point blank if the president is a rapist, Shays said, "I would like not to say that it way. But the bottom line is that I believe that he did rape Broaddrick."

Christopher Shays, Shays Shocker: Clinton Raped Broaddrick Twice

It's no longer acceptable to say that the abuse and mistreatment of women is cultural. It should be called what it is: criminal."

-- Hillary Rodham Clinton, addressing the UN, 3.4.99  

As we've learned from the Juanita Broaddrick story (non-story, I should say) and countless others, the Clintons will do their best Muhammad Ali impression and play rope-a-dope one more time. Like they said - they've got to "get back to the business of the American people." You know - degrading the military, censoring the Internet, and bombing other countries. There's no time to deal with rape allegations or small details like a contempt charge.

---No Person is Above the Law

"Who is Juanita Broaddrick? I've never heard of her!" cried Betty Friedan, the founder of modern feminism. Friedan's outburst came at last Fridayís conference, entitled "The Legacy and Future of Hillary Rodham Clinton." Held at the American Enterprise Institute in Washington. D.C., the event offered a chilling microcosm of an angry, divided America.

For nearly an hour, a five-woman panel had been debating whether Hillary qualified as a "feminist heroine." I thought Broaddrick's claim of having been raped by Hillary's husband had some bearing on this point, so I broached the subject during the question-and-answer period. Friedan's dyspeptic denial followed.

Was Friedan telling the truth? Maybe. And maybe all those millions of Germans who professed ignorance of the death camps were telling the truth too. The problem is, having admitted her ignorance, Friedan showed no interest in exploring the matter further. And that was the problem with the Germans too.

Totalitarian impulses flourished at the conference. Taking a page from Soviet psychiatry, some Clintonites suggested that Hillary hating might be a mental illness. . .

---Richard Poe, The Hillary Conspiracy

The clinton Rapes: Credit where credit is due...
Even hillary hagiographer, Gail Sheehy, concedes that hillary clinton deserves no less than half of the credit for the clinton rapes.
She made the money, she laid out the political strategy. She fought his political enemies for him. She gave him a beautiful child. She was an excellent mother. What more could you want in a political wife? So these other little escapades on the side were just, you know, white noise.---GAIL SHEEHY
Historically, hillary clinton has always been a co-equal partner in clintoncrime.
Specifically, hillary clinton raped, too. For two decades, for power, for all intents and purposes, hillary clinton both provided and pinned her husband's prey as he raped them, again and again.
 
In a novel twist of logic and reality during the First Rapist's impeachment trial, the co-rapist portrayed the endless string of clinton rapes as significant clinton public policy, euphemistically dubbing chronic clinton predation "ministering to troubled young girls."

Mia T, First Rapist's Rose-Garden Escape: The Full Story

With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff
 
 
Thursday August 3, 2000; 9:35 AM EDT
 
Shays Reveals Details of Clinton's 'Horrific' Broaddrick Rape
 
Arkansas nursing home operator Juanita Broaddrick told impeachment
investigators she was raped not once but twice by Bill Clinton during a
brutal attack in a Little Rock hotel room 22 years ago, Connecticut
Congressman Christopher Shays revealed Wednesday.
 
Shays was one of forty moderate congressional Republicans to visit the
Ford Building evidence room during the House impeachment probe, where
Broaddrick's accusation and documentation of other alleged Clinton
crimes were made available for review.
 
Five days after Clinton was impeached by the House, Shays told the New
York Times that the evidence was, "very alarming and very unsettling,"
involving, "conduct by the president that is alleged to be pretty
horrific."
 
In his comments to the Times Shays made no mention of the second attack
on Broaddrick.
 
But when asked about the Ford Building evidence on Wednesday by WELI New
Haven talk-radio host Tom Scott, Shays replied, "I believed that he had
done it. I believed her that she had been raped 20 years ago. And it
was vicious rapes, it was twice at the same event."
 
When Scott asked Shays if he believes the president is a rapist, the
congressman replied, "I would like not to say it that way.
But the bottom line is that I believe that he did rape Broaddrick."
 
Shays comments to Scott were first reported by National Review Online
late Wednesday.
 
The reactions of other House members who viewed the evidence at the time
suggested that Clinton's assault on Broaddrick was more disturbing than
what has been reported in the press since.
 
Just days after the impeachment vote Arizona Rep. Matt Salmon told the
Arizona Republic that what he saw in the Ford Building left him
"nauseated." Delaware Rep. Mike Castle was reduced to tears, according
to CNBC's Chris Matthews.
 
The shocking presidential rape evidence briefly moved Shays into the
pro-impeachment column, he told the Times after the vote. But a personal
meeting with Clinton, Shays said, changed his mind.
 
Not a single U.S. Senator viewed the Ford Building evidence before
voting to acquit Clinton on two articles of impeachment.
 
In 1999, Georgia Congressman Bob Barr told NewsMax.com that the Ford
Building materials would remain sealed unless the American people
demanded their release.

Shays Shocker Clinton Raped Broaddrick Twice.

National Review Online
By NR staff
8/02/2000

Connecticut Rep. Chris Shays said on a talk radio show Wednesday that, based on secret evidence he reviewed during the impeachment controversy, he believes President Clinton raped Juanita Broaddrick, not once, but twice.

Talk-show host Tom Scott of Clear Channel Broadcasting, New Haven (WELI 960) asked Shays about the mysterious impeachment "evidence room," prompting the GOP moderate to say that Broaddrick "disclosed that she had been raped, not once, but twice" to Judiciary Committee investigators.

Shays, who is often hailed by the New York Times for his independent judgment and good sense, found the evidence compelling:

"I believed that he had done it. I believed her that she had been raped 20 years ago. And it was vicious rapes, it was twice at the same event." Asked point blank if the president is a rapist, Shays said, "I would like not to say that it way. But the bottom line is that I believe that he did rape Broaddrick."

And Shays voted against impeachment!

 

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by Mia T
 
It is natural for man to indulge in the illusions of hope.
We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth,
and listen to the song of that siren
till she transforms us into beasts.
Is this the part of wise men,
engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty?
Are we disposed to be the number of those
who, having eyes, see not,
and having ears, hear not,
the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation?
For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost,
I am willing to know the whole truth;
to know the worst, and to provide for it.
-----------------Patrick Henry
 
In a dark time, the eye begins to see.
----------------- Theodore Roethke
 

THE BOTTOM LINE:

 

18 posted on 12/11/2001 10:32:03 AM PST by Mia T
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19 posted on 12/11/2001 11:37:40 AM PST by f.Christian
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To: Mia T
Oh me of little faith...I couldn't believe men had only been zipping it up since the 30s.

"In the 1930’s, a sales campaign began for children's clothing featuring zippers. The campaign praised zippers for promoting self-reliance in young children by making it possible for them to dress in self-help clothing. The zipper beat the button in the 1937 in the "Battle of the Fly," when French fashion designers raved over zippers in men's trousers. Esquire magazine declared the zipper the "Newest Tailoring Idea for Men" and among the zippered fly's many virtues was that it would exclude "The Possibility of Unintentional and Embarrassing Disarray."

Mia knows these things!

20 posted on 12/11/2001 12:14:33 PM PST by YaYa123
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