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Fisk's Freudian Slip, etc.
Andrewsullivan.com ^ | 12/9/01 | Andrew Sullivan

Posted on 12/09/2001 8:07:33 PM PST by Croooow

FISK’S FREUDIAN SLIP: What happened to British left-wing journalist, Robert Fisk, was terrible. He was attacked by a crowd of angry Afghans, after his car broke down in a dangerous spot. But what he said about it is so deeply revealing, it’s worth recording. “If I had been them, I would have attacked me,” he said. Think about that for a minute. He doesn’t excuse their violence – “It doesn't excuse them for beating me up so badly” – yet he feels they were morally justified in what they did. Isn’t that exactly what the far left essentially meant in the wake of September 11: that the massacre was wrong but understandable? And doesn’t it suggest that the only moral difference between these intellectuals seduced by violence and the terrorists themselves is the will and capacity to actually translate beliefs into action?

THE PATHOLOGY OF ROBERT FISK: His account of his ordeal at the hands of an Afghan mob – a mob that apparently cried “Infidel!” as they attacked and tried to rob him – is a classic piece of leftist pathology. You have to read it to believe it. Even when people are trying to murder Fisk, he adamantly refuses to see them as morally culpable or even responsible. I’ve heard of self-hatred but this is ridiculous: “They started by shaking hands. We said, 'Salaam aleikum' – peace be upon you – then the first pebbles flew past my face." That sentence alone deserves to go down as one of the defining quotes of the idiotic lefty. If it weren't so tragic, it would be downright hilarious. Who needs Evelyn Waugh when you have this kind of reality?

"I WOULD HAVE DONE THE SAME": But wait, there's more. "A small boy tried to grab my bag. Then another. Then someone punched me in the back. Then young men broke my glasses, began smashing stones into my face and head. I couldn't see for the blood pouring down my forehead and swamping my eyes. And even then, I understood. I couldn't blame them for what they were doing. In fact, if I were the Afghan refugees of Kila Abdullah, close to the Afghan-Pakistan border, I would have done just the same to Robert Fisk. Or any other Westerner I could find.” What does this mean, you might well ask? What it means is that someone – anyone – is either innocent or guilty purely by racial or cultural association. An average Westerner is to be taken as an emblem of an entire culture and treated as such. Any random Westerner will do. Individual notions of responsibility or morality are banished, as one group is labeled blameless and another irredeemably malign. There’s a word for this: it’s racism. And like many other members of the left, Fisk is himself a proud racist, someone who believes that the color of a person’s skin condemns him automatically and justifies violence against him. So the two extremes touch and are, in fact, interchangeable. Rightist racism springs from the premise that some races are somehow morally superior. Leftist racism springs from the premise that some races are also morally superior. The only difference is the color of skin. Alleged “victimization” sanctifies any evil perpetrated by the oppressed race. Just as the Nazis and Communists claimed self-defense for the mass-murder of their “oppressors,” so modern leftists claim the absolution of self-defense even for a mob attacking a carful of innocent, harmless journalists. Or a sky-scraper for that matter.

THE VICTIM OF THE WORLD: You know the expression: you wouldn't understand a culture if it actually hit you in the head? Fisk has now officially retired that expression as a metaphor. He goes on: “There were all the Afghan men and boys who had attacked me who should never have done so but whose brutality was entirely the product of others…” Notice that phrase – “whose brutality was entirely the product of others.” What can that possibly mean? We’re not talking about extenuating circumstances – things that might help us understand or contextualize the hatred of one people for another. We’re talking about a priori moral absolution. Take this passage: “G--d--it, I said and tried to bang my fist on my side until I realised it was bleeding from a big gash on the wrist – the mark of the tooth I had just knocked out of a man's jaw, a man who was truly innocent of any crime except that of being the victim of the world.” No, Mr. Fisk, that man who attacked you was not truly innocent of any crime. You were. He was not the victim of the world. You were the victim of a thieving, violent mob. For those who believe that the left-wing intelligentsia is capable of critical thought or even a modification of their ideology in the face of evidence, this incident is a wonderful example of why it won’t happen. They won’t recognize reality, or abandon their racism, or moderate their spectacular condescension to the inhabitants of the developing world – even when reality, literally, crushingly, punches them in the face.


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1 posted on 12/09/2001 8:07:33 PM PST by Croooow
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To: Croooow
What Fiske is saying, is that Afghans SHOULD beat up any westerner they find, except him, and how were they to know he was Robert Fiske?
3 posted on 12/09/2001 8:14:26 PM PST by Defiant
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To: Defiant
Sullivan has pointed out the racism of Susan Sontag and now Fisk... this man exposes more leftists for who they are lately...
4 posted on 12/09/2001 8:24:03 PM PST by Croooow
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To: Croooow
If Fiske is glad the Afgans beat his A$$, so am I. He really should go back to the spot of his beating and let them finish him off. It's the only right thing to do.
5 posted on 12/09/2001 8:24:16 PM PST by elbucko
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To: JoeEveryman
I saw his interview on MSNBC's Ron Allen.....very strange man. He referred to "your war" (Allen's or USA's). Doesn't he see the Brits involvement. Also, he didn't look that injured....but, it had to be frightening. His main follow-up action is to "talk to the relatives of those (Afgans) who were killed by the coalition bombs. What about the relatives of the people murdered by the Taliban? This guy Fisk is nuts.
6 posted on 12/09/2001 8:24:36 PM PST by moe
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To: Croooow
He goes on: “There were all the Afghan men and boys who had attacked me who should never have done so but whose brutality was entirely the product of others…” Notice that phrase – “whose brutality was entirely the product of others.” What can that possibly mean?

What does this pathetic pile of camel dung mean?! The "product of others" refers to the lie that the United States is intentionally dropping bombs on innocent civilians and were it not for that, this would never have happened. Pardon me while I puke my guts out. It's rare that you get to see such a dramatic example of self-loathing. It truly shows the level at which these moronic liberals exist at.

7 posted on 12/09/2001 8:30:54 PM PST by AlaskaErik
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To: Croooow
" 'If I had been them, I would have attacked me,' he said."

Maybe this is part of the explanation of why the leftists want to get the guns.

8 posted on 12/09/2001 8:45:51 PM PST by gatex
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To: Croooow
“There were all the Afghan men and boys who had attacked me who should never have done so but whose brutality was entirely the product of others…”

From what I understand, Afghan culture is just violent, period.

10 posted on 12/09/2001 8:51:03 PM PST by xm177e2
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To: elbucko
If Fiske is glad the Afgans beat his A$$, so am I. He really should go back to the spot of his beating and let them finish him off. It's the only right thing to do.

I know. I'm sinning horribly by enjoying this idiot getting beat up, but HE doesn't seem to mind--so how can I possibly feel bad about it?

11 posted on 12/09/2001 9:03:51 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: Croooow
This reminds me of Suddenly, Last Summer.
12 posted on 12/09/2001 9:13:40 PM PST by Stentor
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To: Croooow
This moral imbecile is incapable of distinguishing between an arsonist and a fireman.

He and his ilk have nothing of value to teach civilized people. To hell with him.

-ccm

13 posted on 12/09/2001 9:54:13 PM PST by ccmay
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Clymer-2
14 posted on 12/09/2001 9:56:43 PM PST by chuckles
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To: Croooow
Maybe Fisk should be arrested on "disordely conduct" and "inciting a riot" charges too...he deserves it, LOL!
15 posted on 12/09/2001 10:18:32 PM PST by Rain-maker
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To: Croooow
Robert Fisk's own battle of Afghanistan...Part deux.
16 posted on 12/09/2001 10:25:53 PM PST by dennisw
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To: ipaq2000; Lent; veronica; Sabramerican; beowolf; Nachum; BenF; monkeyshine; angelo...
btttttttt
17 posted on 12/09/2001 10:26:59 PM PST by dennisw
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This reminds me of Amy Biehl (sp?) who went to South Africa to show leftist PC solidarity with the ANC, and got lynched by a black mob and was brutally beaten to death for being white.

Her commie parents went to South Africa to group hug her killers, because they understood the righteous anger of the killers of their own daughter.

18 posted on 12/09/2001 10:34:02 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
yike...got a link?
19 posted on 12/09/2001 10:43:39 PM PST by GeronL
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To: Travis McGee
You just nailed it ! Right on ALL acounts, my dear. : - )
20 posted on 12/09/2001 10:44:02 PM PST by nopardons
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