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T. Rex Meets Biblical Text at Museum
The Los Angeles Times ^ | December 9, 2001 | STEPHANIE SIMON, TIMES STAFF WRITER

Posted on 12/09/2001 4:44:53 PM PST by StoneColdGOP

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:49:36 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Tennessee_Bob
fyi
41 posted on 12/09/2001 7:44:55 PM PST by Delta-Boudreaux
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To: Smith285
Hey there, nonbeliever...are you back to answer the questions you left open?
42 posted on 12/09/2001 7:51:30 PM PST by Tennessee_Bob
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To: jennyp
Godless Linguistics
43 posted on 12/09/2001 7:53:02 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic
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To: Smith285
Isn't it funny how the most educated among us (scientists etc.)

I take it that you're counting yourself as one of the elite? Come on down to my church here in Oak Ridge. I'll introduce you to some of the highly educated Christians we have here in Oak Ridge.

44 posted on 12/09/2001 7:54:19 PM PST by Tennessee_Bob
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To: medved
Your arguments show a complete ignorance of genetics, or even of biology. Such 'refutations' of the therory of natural selection (not evolution) might have appeared valid in the 19th century, but make no sense in the 21st.

Evolution is a fact. That is, the older the fossil record, the less the animals and plants contained therein resemble modern species. Devote your time and energy to explaining that, and not to trying to deny someone else's explanation.
45 posted on 12/09/2001 7:57:39 PM PST by VietVet
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To: Lazamataz
"I would only flag a moderator for disruptor tactics, excessive vulgarity, or obnoxiously expressed and excessively leftist ideology."

All of which "nonbeliever" demonstrated in his/her/its few hours of existence here last night.

46 posted on 12/09/2001 8:00:42 PM PST by Fabozz
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To: StoneColdGOP
If the park ranger insists the Grand Canyon was formed over millions of years, creationists take their kids aside to tell them a flood like the one Noah rode out on his ark could have carved the gorge in a flash.

How could a flood carve out the canyon without carving out OTHER canyons of similar magnitude everywhere else? How could a single flood build up the energy necessary to carve out all that rock?

47 posted on 12/09/2001 8:01:52 PM PST by xm177e2
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To: ag2000jon
bump
48 posted on 12/09/2001 8:03:02 PM PST by ag2000jon
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To: StoneColdGOP
"The Bible is not a science textbook. But where it touches on science, we can trust it. We make no bones about it: This is the truth."

Construction will be more expensive than previously thought, however. He's instructed the engineers to go back to the drawing board, using three as the value for Pi.

"Despite what some unbelievers say, that Pi is equal to some silly imaginary number between real numbers like three and four, I trust the Bible on this one. God is the ultimate engineer, he created the universe, I'll take His word over some point-headed scientist's, any day!"

49 posted on 12/09/2001 8:07:22 PM PST by xm177e2
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To: Smith285
If you find a way to say that more diplomatically, you'll be allowed to stay on FR. There are quite a few atheists here, but the same rules apply to us as everyone else: be a jerk, get the boot.
50 posted on 12/09/2001 8:17:24 PM PST by xm177e2
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To: Doctor Stochastic
... We here at the Institute for Catastrophic 'Riting have the answers! We know where the letters go when you make a contraction like "can't" from "cannot" (there's another missing transitional from you - anyone ever see a "can'ot" or a "cann't"? Of cours'not). Read our newsgroup alt.apostrophism for the real, uncensored story (which you certainly won't get if the robomoderation of t.o passes preventing us from spamming the TRUTH over all of Usenet).

Remember, Splifferd the @ says: A Mind Is A Terrble Thing To Baste - It Takes Forever And The Oven Is Always Hard To Clean Afterwards.
- from your Godless Linguistics link

BBSSSPPHHLLLLooooLLL!!!

51 posted on 12/09/2001 8:20:02 PM PST by jennyp
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To: StoneColdGOP; All
Science is a tool, not a religion. Tools help us to do all sorts of wonderful things, but they don't tell us who we are. Unfortunately, many people want science to tell them who they are, and they worship it with the same zealous fanaticism that every other religion inspires in some people. I find the whole story amusing, but the real lesson is that we need to get science back off the altar and back into the tool box. I once wrote a commentary on this topic called I Will Not Bow.

WFTR
Bill

52 posted on 12/09/2001 8:27:28 PM PST by WFTR
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To: medved
And the real killer, i.e. the thing which simply kills evolutionism dead, is the following consideration: In real life, assuming you were to somehow miraculously evolve the first feature you'd need to become a flying bird, then by the time another 10,000 generations rolled around and you evolved the second such reature, the first, having been disfunctional/antifunctional all the while, would have DE-EVOLVED and either disappeared altogether or become vestigial.

This is silly. Animals can evolve something for one purpose, and then start using it for another. This is how some of the most radical evolutionary changes occurred.

Just look at bugs. They started out using gills to breathe underwater--and when the gills became a certain size, they began using them as wings. They were able to jump long distances, and later (as they evolved), to fly.

If you look at spiderwebs, you'll see many are vertical, but some are horizontal. The spiders originally ran around eating bugs. Then they started making horizontal webs to catch jumping bugs. Finally, when bugs started flying, the spiders evolved to make vertical webs.

53 posted on 12/09/2001 8:29:23 PM PST by xm177e2
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To: Smith285
So, let's break this down...
If the universe had a beginning, then it had to have a Beginner (prime mover). The evidence leaves us with the following two options...

I believe that Something created something out of nothing.

You believe that nothing created something out of nothing!

Which view is more reasonable?

Question...If there is no God, why is there something rather than nothing at all?

54 posted on 12/09/2001 8:37:42 PM PST by woollyone
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To: arielb
The man who received a nobel prize for discovering the Big Bang theory, Arno Penzias, is an Orthodox Jew.

How can one discover something that never happened? Interesting!

55 posted on 12/09/2001 8:45:30 PM PST by Pure Country
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To: jennyp
Too many here (and elsewhere) just don't understand the Theory of Equilibrated Punctuation.
56 posted on 12/09/2001 8:56:56 PM PST by Doctor Stochastic
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To: xm177e2
This is silly. Animals can evolve something for one purpose, and then start using it for another. This is how some of the most radical evolutionary changes occurred. Just look at bugs. They started out using gills to breathe underwater--and when the gills became a certain size, they began using them as wings. They were able to jump long distances, and later (as they evolved), to fly. If you look at spiderwebs, you'll see many are vertical, but some are horizontal. The spiders originally ran around eating bugs. Then they started making horizontal webs to catch jumping bugs. Finally, when bugs started flying, the spiders evolved to make vertical webs.

I think that was one of the dumbest posts I have read all day...I hope that was supposed to be a joke.

Yea, big gills are great for flying and jumping real far. LMAO!!!!

57 posted on 12/09/2001 9:08:31 PM PST by ag2000jon
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To: StoneColdGOP
Hee hee... I LOVE this stuff. (Although I can't read through the replies... the venom of the mockers unsettles me...)
 
Here was my "courageous" (HAR!) thread: Evidence of Dinosaurs in the Twentieth Century   Post #82: links to the pictures. (The url changed.)
 
See ya soon!

58 posted on 12/09/2001 9:21:25 PM PST by AnnaZ
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To: woollyone
If the universe had a beginning, then it had to have a Beginner (prime mover).

Why?

59 posted on 12/09/2001 9:24:08 PM PST by alcuin
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To: ag2000jon
You've seen fish flap their gills, haven't you? For the much-smaller insects, only a tiny amount of propulsion was needed to carry them pretty far, flapping their gills to gain distance while jumping is not silly, and as it would pose a benefit, they would evolve "better" gills over time.
60 posted on 12/09/2001 9:35:01 PM PST by xm177e2
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