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Bush Civil Rights Appointee Denied Seat by Commission, Refused Recognition
AP ^ | 12/7/01 | Will Lester

Posted on 12/07/2001 8:13:22 AM PST by Jean S

WASHINGTON (AP) - The U.S. Commission on Civil Rights refused Friday to seat - or even recognize - a new commissioner appointed by President Bush.

Cleveland labor lawyer Peter Kirsanow watched quietly from the audience as attempts by the three Republican commissioners to have him seated or acknowledged were repeatedly voted down 5-3. Kirsanow attempted to vote for the first 10 minutes of the session but he was ignored and eventually sat silent as his allies continued debate.

The meeting opened with an attempt by Republican commissioners to adjourn until the dispute over the commission's makeup is resolved. But Chairwoman Mary Frances Berry persuaded the commission to reject that effort, saying it is impossible to know when the legal dispute will be resolved.

Berry recounted how President Reagan fired her in 1983 and how she fought through the courts to get back on the board.

She said accepting the White House or Justice Department interpretation of the law on the commission's makeup "would threaten the very independence of the commission."

Commissioner Christopher Edley, an ally of Berry, said he has told House Democratic leader Dick Gephardt that the White House is trying to reshape the commission in an apparent retribution for some of his work.

Berry - a frequent critic of the 2000 elections and particularly of Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, younger brother of the president - presides over a panel on which six commissioners lean Democratic and two lean Republican. The White House has already announced it plans to appoint Jennifer Cabranes Braceras to replace Yvonne Lee, whose term is expiring in early December. If Kirsanow is seated, the commission would be split 4-4.

Kirsanow was sworn in Thursday night to fill the seat of Victoria Wilson, an independent whose term, the White House says, expired Nov. 29.

White House spokesman Ari Fleischer said there was no legal merit to Berry's claim that Wilson's term has not expired, noting a ruling by the Justice Department's legal counsel and Clinton administration records that indicate it has expired. He denied rough politics on the White House's part, saying Kirsanow was installed within the letter of the law.

Berry said the White House's moves were "about muzzling us and it's scary to have them take all of this time and energy. It makes me even more afraid for the preservation of the commission."

The dispute between the Republican White House and a prominent black civil rights leader surprised the Bush team.

By taking the disputed seat held by Wilson, Kirsanow, a member of the largely conservative Center for New Black Leadership, would effectively rein in Berry's power over the commission.

The Bush administration maintains Wilson's term ended Nov. 29, when the term of the man she succeeded, Judge A. Leon Higginbotham Jr., would have expired. Higginbotham died in 1998.. This expiration date was spelled out in the Clinton administration's paperwork on Wilson's appointment, the White House says.

Berry argued the documents are wrong and are trumped by federal law, which says new commissioners will fill a six-year term.

Democratic Reps. John Conyers of Michigan and Jerrold Nadler of New York wrote Berry on Thursday to say the law as amended in 1994 reflects her interpretation.

The commission received a letter from the Justice Department late Thursday informing Berry that she is not allowed to retain outside legal help without Attorney General John Ashcroft's permission. Berry rejected that opinion.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: civilrights; kirsanow; maryfrancesberry
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To: Constitution Day
re: "M.F.B."

And that Edley, he's an M.F.B.B. - Mary Frances' Butt Boy.

261 posted on 12/07/2001 12:47:42 PM PST by jackbill
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To: sweetliberty
think it's time for O'Reilly to look into this lady's finances."

Have you brought this to his attention?

Do we need to? Doesn't he read all our posts?

Seriously, I'll go ahead and send it to him. I bet he's on it already.

262 posted on 12/07/2001 12:49:54 PM PST by Defiant
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To: JeanS
watching it now,wow the dems are playing the victims again
263 posted on 12/07/2001 1:02:55 PM PST by linn37
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To: Howlin
........ Not more than four members shall at any one time be of the same political party. .......

They use the sneaky way of getting around it.... The current members listed as party affiliation..... Democrats = 4; Independents = 3; Republicans = 1. Mary Berry was reappointed in Jan. 1999 so she has until Jan. 2005. If they get a split then it'll be interesting to see who gets elected Chairman. Maybe we have a Commission without a chair person.

264 posted on 12/07/2001 1:03:08 PM PST by deport
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To: JeanS
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265 posted on 12/07/2001 1:05:14 PM PST by DoctorMichael
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To: jackbill
LOL! Good one - and absolutely correct!
266 posted on 12/07/2001 1:07:17 PM PST by Constitution Day
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To: Phantom Lord
I will click on the link but are you watching this charade playing now on C-span??
267 posted on 12/07/2001 1:10:44 PM PST by StarFan
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To: StarFan
I am at work in cube land.
268 posted on 12/07/2001 1:11:12 PM PST by Phantom Lord
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To: Defiant
"Seriously, I'll go ahead and send it to him. I bet he's on it already."

Good. I hope he will go after it with the kind of tencity that he has gone after Jesse Jackass Jackson and the charities.

269 posted on 12/07/2001 1:14:20 PM PST by sweetliberty
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To: Phantom Lord
I'm watching the tale end with her 'lap dogs' concurring with her decision and seeking TV face time. Her arrogance is quite astounding. She refused to listen to Peter Kirsanow since the rules do not permit MEMBERS OF THE AUDIENCE to speak unless the chair makes a motion or some such jazz. Hopefully it will be replayed this evening on C-Span.
270 posted on 12/07/2001 1:18:34 PM PST by StarFan
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To: JeanS
"The United States Commission on Civil Rights is composed of eight Commissioners: four appointed by the President and four by Congress. Not more than four members shall at any one time be of the same political party." It appears to me the angle to approach would be the political party line. Seems to me that those members that claim to be "independent" do not belong to any political party and should have never been placed on the commission. The phrase "political party" seems to assume that the members must belong to a specific party.
271 posted on 12/07/2001 1:28:01 PM PST by politicalwit
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To: JeanS
Well I will tell you all this Project21 BOND James Godden and all the rest of us are digging the hell in for a fight on this one and we will fight until Peter Kirsanow is sitting on that Commission. Damn The Torpedoes Full Speed Ahead!!!
272 posted on 12/07/2001 1:32:34 PM PST by Trueblackman
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To: StarFan
It really is amazing, isn't it, like watching the Queen of Hearts from Alice in Wonderland.

I wonder if Berry really believes the crap she is spewing, or if she just is playing her role as useful idiot number 129,676,663 in the 'CRAT machine.

274 posted on 12/07/2001 1:46:44 PM PST by Fixit
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To: JeanS
What's with the kid glove approach?Just send in the federal marshals and arrest her,tell her and the media bill clinton is gone and we don't do this anymore!
275 posted on 12/07/2001 1:49:04 PM PST by INSENSITIVE GUY
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To: Publius
Why not issue an EO to do away with the commission. Like clinton's shill remarked at one time, paraphrased: A stroke of the pen, law of the land. Use their own dirty tactics against them.
276 posted on 12/07/2001 1:50:21 PM PST by RJS1950
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To: ken5050
The dems gotta do something considering Bush's high approval among blacks as reported HERE
277 posted on 12/07/2001 1:51:13 PM PST by travelin_man
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To: balrog666
This is the best solution I've read so far! Congratulations! Perfect!
278 posted on 12/07/2001 1:51:30 PM PST by maxwellp
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To: tgiles
Please don't insult morons with comparisons like that!
279 posted on 12/07/2001 2:06:56 PM PST by PortugeeJoe
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To: clintonh8r
"Like terrorists, power is the only thing they understand and respect. Our very own Taliban."

Ain't it the truth?

280 posted on 12/07/2001 2:19:53 PM PST by sweetliberty
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