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Russia to the rescue?Moscow says Europe should turn eastward for security help
WND ^ | Dec 7 2001 | Toby Westerman

Posted on 12/07/2001 2:14:04 AM PST by lavaroise

Moscow says Europe should turn eastward for security help



By Toby Westerman
© 2001 WorldNetDaily.com

Moscow believes the U.S. "cannot guarantee" the security of its allies in Europe and that Western Europe, therefore, should turn to Russia as a new alliance partner, according to official Russian sources.

European nations should "revise their position" regarding Russia and turn NATO into a "political structure," Moscow said.

"The Sept. 11 attacks on the United States proved that for all of its might and riches, the country cannot guarantee its own security, let alone that of its allies."

The solution is for Europe to turn to Russia, "which has become their much needed ally in the war against terrorism." Moscow demands a "long-term arrangement" from NATO with at least "a limited participation" in alliance deliberations to "resolve European security problems."

The statements were carried by the Voice of Russia World Service, the official broadcasting service of the Russian government.

Moscow's comments came shortly before today's scheduled meeting of NATO and Russian leaders at NATO headquarters in Brussels, Belgium.

NATO was founded in 1949 as a defensive alliance against the threat of invasion from an aggressive Soviet Union and remained effective against Soviet attack until the collapse of the USSR in 1991.

Moscow suggests that Western Europe "speed up the formation of a rapid reaction force," while declaring that "durable security is impossible" in Europe without Russian involvement in the continent's defense structures.

Apparently referring to the perceived need for Russian involvement in the full gamut of European security measures, Moscow declared that "neither the rapid reaction force nor any other moves that NATO might take towards consolidation would help if Russia drops out."

Moscow left unsaid how European security would be affected if Russia "drops out" of present continental security agreements.

Moscow advanced the proposition that if it gained "limited participation" in NATO, the alliance "could gradually transform from a military into a political structure."

Claiming wide support for close cooperation with Russia, Moscow proclaimed that "an ever greater number of people" in Europe "regard a union with Russia and long-term cooperation" as "desirable and necessary." This "union" and "cooperation" would be "free from the memories of the past."

Since the Soviet era, Moscow has sought a united Europe – and with no designated role for the U.S. In March 2001, the Russian Foreign Ministry stated that "Moscow seeks creation of a single, united, legal and cultural … civilized space."

The united Europe, according to Moscow's view, would be "one of the poles of a new world in the making."

Economic cooperation between Western Europe and Russia is already substantial, with about 60 percent of foreign investment and 40 percent of Russia's foreign trade coming from nations of the European Union.

On Wednesday, Russian and European officials met in Moscow to discuss further joint cooperation. According to a report from Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, EU Commissioner for Trade Pascal Lamy stated, "We recognize and welcome the considerable political and economic reforms which have been put in place by President Putin's government."

European dependence upon Russian oil and gas is growing following recent agreements guaranteeing supplies to Western Europe in partial exchange for investment in Russian oil and gas production.

As Western Europe and Russia grow closer together, Moscow is increasingly becoming a power center beyond the borders of the Russian Federation.

The Union of Russia and Stalinist Belarus appears ready to accept new members, with new inductees very probably coming from Central Asia as well as Eastern Europe.

The Soviet Union's successor, the 12-member Commonwealth of Independent States, is promising to become "an authoritative international organization," according to the Voice of Russia World Service.

The president of the oil-rich CIS member nation of Kazakhstan, Nursultan Nazarbayev, declared that the CIS has "a common history, a common mentality and a common language that unifies us – I mean the Russian language."

Observers note that unfortunately CIS members have another common bond – most of them are ruled by iron-fisted dictators. One of the CIS leaders, President Alexander Lukashenko of Belarus, is regularly condemned by international human-rights organizations and has even been accused of political murder.

The Putin government has also come under severe criticism for extending control over the Russian media. In August 2001, Putin decreed that all Russian broadcasting and relay stations for television and radio were to be placed under the management of a single government corporation. This move gives Putin effective control over the content of Russia's mass media.

Observers also question Moscow's close cooperation – including military cooperation – with nations linked to terrorist activities and its ties to countries still advocating the communist cause, including China, Cuba and Belarus.

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All Russia needed to Sovietise the whole of Europe for itself was a slick terror attack on the US. Here is what disgusts me in this:

1. Russia claims the US cannot protect Europe, which is a lie since freedom and security of freedom in Europe has always been protected by the US.

2. Russia conveniently does not want the past to be mentioned because Russia does not want the US to gain credit for freedom and security, but rather would want to gain credit for it despite ist past (present?) involvement in Soviet lead world nuclear terrorism.

3. Russia is using nothing less than nuclear blackmail and sheer military force influence to recreate its image and its past as some necessary evil for its greatness today.

4.Russia does not want to repent, does not want to repair, does not want peace, does not want to stop prosecuting and criticising the US, Russia does not even want to be forgiven or loved, Russia wants to be respected for its past crimes.

Folkes, we are in big trouble.

I say if Europe wants to flirt with Russia, I say let Europe go right ahead and shoot itself in the foot. As for America, keep and bear arms, nuclear arms that is.

1 posted on 12/07/2001 2:14:04 AM PST by lavaroise
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To: lavaroise
And if you buy what the Russkis are selling I've got some seaside land in Arizona going dirt cheap.
2 posted on 12/07/2001 2:18:39 AM PST by Zeroisanumber
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To: lavaroise
Russia? Isn't that the country which cannot feed its military?
3 posted on 12/07/2001 2:29:03 AM PST by NoControllingLegalAuthority
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To: lavaroise
yup, dig that bunker buddy, dig it deep. Lets see, Stalinist Belarus has free elections, but since the candidates designated by the West didn't win, they are a stalinist state, but Georgia, ruled by a real x-Stalin crony, Shevernadzi, who was responsible for the murder of thousands of his own people, is a thriving democracy...all because the old bugger kisses Western arse. Oh and I love the BS about the media, especially since everyone ignores the fact that military psyops specialists were working directly at CNN during the illegal terror bombing of Yugoslavia. You are such a hypocrit by ignoring this that it goes beyond all reason.
4 posted on 12/07/2001 5:10:39 AM PST by Stavka2
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To: madrussian; ibn
Russophobe alert!
5 posted on 12/07/2001 5:13:09 AM PST by Stavka2
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To: Pericles; madrussian; ibn; wildandcrazyrussian
Russophobia alert! BUMP
6 posted on 12/07/2001 5:16:26 AM PST by Stavka2
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To: Stavka2
Oderint dum metuant
7 posted on 12/07/2001 5:29:35 AM PST by ibn
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To: Spirit Of Truth
Ah, the other voice of UNReason has arrived. So nice to here the tin foil gallery at it again. By the way, dug a new level on your bunker yet? After all, you can't expect us Russians to take you into our underground metropolis...what there's barely enough room for us and our forked tails...and the little children we will use for blood sacrafices.

To bad you probably believed everything I said in sarcasm...but then again, that's why few take you seriously.

9 posted on 12/07/2001 5:49:43 AM PST by Stavka2
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To: Spirit Of Truth
Makes a lot of sense indeed. Man born pagan, always a pagan.
10 posted on 12/07/2001 6:05:38 AM PST by lavaroise
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To: Stavka2
Russophobe alert!

Or is it Russia playing on the terrorophobia of the west, my whole point.

11 posted on 12/07/2001 6:07:23 AM PST by lavaroise
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To: lavaroise
Pay no attention to that man with the Iron Curtain hidden behind his back.
12 posted on 12/07/2001 6:09:17 AM PST by George Smiley
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To: lavaroise
Your ramblings make less and less sense...guess all those converts were never real Christians since they were born pagans...As for Putin, to whom you were of course refering..with all your 'Christian' love (snicker) he was baptised at birth. Go pound sand...you get deeper bunkers that way.
13 posted on 12/07/2001 6:10:40 AM PST by Stavka2
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To: George Smiley
How about that man with the aluminum helmet and cape?
14 posted on 12/07/2001 6:11:32 AM PST by Stavka2
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To: Stavka2
Baptism does not impress me, especialy under the blessings of the KGB.
15 posted on 12/07/2001 6:20:41 AM PST by lavaroise
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To: George Smiley
The sword is indeed mightier than the shield when it comes to protecting your ideology.
16 posted on 12/07/2001 6:22:39 AM PST by lavaroise
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To: lavaroise
I'm sure nothing Russian impresses you...how could it, to you we are untermenschen...your inherent racism is flying high. I'm sure right upto 9-11 you supported the Islamics fighting Russia whole heartedly...and why not, they fit right into your warped world view. Pound sand.
17 posted on 12/07/2001 6:24:02 AM PST by Stavka2
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To: Stavka2
My angle was not racist, remember, G_d chastised His own welfare and recognition addicted people in the desert.
18 posted on 12/07/2001 6:31:09 AM PST by lavaroise
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To: Stavka2
I was making a play off of the phrase from the Wizard of Oz- "pay no attention to that man behind the curtain"-

I have no idea who's wearing aluminum helmets- (aren't US/NATO ones Kevlar these days?) so I'm not sure but suspect that is to whom you are referring.

NATO kept the peace, albeit an uneasy one, for forty years. Give them credit for that.

I'm not crazy about what we did in the Balkans for any number of reasons.

I think it was political- Clinton and Blair did it for the purpose of misdirecting popular attention from WJC's scandals at home, just like the aspirin factory bombings.

19 posted on 12/07/2001 6:39:06 AM PST by George Smiley
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To: lavaroise; sonofliberty2
Claiming wide support for close cooperation with Russia, Moscow proclaimed that "an ever greater number of people" in Europe "regard a union with Russia and long-term cooperation" as "desirable and necessary." This "union" and "cooperation" would be "free from the memories of the past." Since the Soviet era, Moscow has sought a united Europe – and with no designated role for the U.S. In March 2001, the Russian Foreign Ministry stated that "Moscow seeks creation of a single, united, legal and cultural … civilized space." The united Europe, according to Moscow's view, would be "one of the poles of a new world in the making."

Four and a half years ago, I wrote a book on the Russian plan to enter NATO and the EU along with its CIS and Eastern bloc allies, strengthen the Sino-Russian alliance, and induce the US to unilaterally disarm itself of its nuclear arsenal, but sadly I never published it, which is unfortunate since with all of these corroborating developments these past couple of years I would be a wealthy man. The book's title was AMERICA IN DANGER--THE GRAND STRATEGIC DECEPTION OF THE “FALL OF SOVIET COMMUNISM” AND THE INCREASING THREAT OF A NUCLEAR FIRST-STRIKE BY THE SINO-RUSSIAN MILITARY ALLIANCE. I may yet decide to publish it, but will have to make major revisions recognizing more recent developments.
20 posted on 12/07/2001 6:47:41 AM PST by rightwing2
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