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To: kjam22
You still don't get it. If Adam and Eve weren't real, then there is no sin. No sin, Jesus is irrelevant. What is so hard to comprehend about that? It is simple strait-forward logic. To believe Genesis is allegory is to deny Christ, ultimately. To believe Genesis is allegory while beleiving Christ is simply to have a convoluted, irreconcilable theology. Why can't you see that? So then, why is it you are not sure which is true? How can you claim to be a true believer and not be sure Genesis account is real?
247 posted on 12/06/2001 12:20:08 PM PST by exmarine
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To: exmarine
I hope you read this entire post.... but I'm not holding my breath.

I never said the Genesis account wasn't real. In fact I said that I believe it is real. I said it isn't worth arguing with people who hold the same theology that we have, even if they developed it believing that the Genesis account is a parable.

Original sin. You said to accept genesis as parable is to ultimately deny Christ. That's garbage plain and simple. It is very possible for a person to read it as a parable in which God is telling them that they are lost. That mankind is lost. And still understand the New Testament and the prophecy of Christ's comming. And Paul tells us that sin and death entered through Adam. Through one man. But he also tells us that we have all sinned. We do not receive punishment because of Adam. We would receive it because of our own sins. Because the truth is that if Adam hadn't sinned.... you and I would have. Christ came for your sins and mine. Quit blaming it on Adam.

But even beyond that ... if you really want to tie all this to original sin... I don't believe children are born condemned. Paul tells us they are born with a sinful nature, but sin occures when a person is old enough to know right from wrong. Else Jesus wouldn't have told the Pharisees that we should all come to him as little children (blameless, innocent) I don't believe in baptizing babies.. and if original sin means what you say it does in relation to Adam and Eve.... then every child that dies of crib death or whatever is in hell right now. And I refuse to believe that because the biblical text doesn't support it. If that were true... the prodigal son would have been born in the far away land. Not born living with his father.

You and I choose to sin when we reach an age of knowing right from wrong. We all do according to Paul. And we are born with Adam's nature to do it. Christ was not born with that nature (hence the virgin birth). But he still had all of the choices that Adam had, and that we have. He just didn't fail like you and I have. Praise God He didn't fail.

251 posted on 12/06/2001 12:35:10 PM PST by kjam22
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To: exmarine
If Adam and Eve were one man, one woman, then please explain to me where Adam's first offspring got his/her spouse. Did he/she marry a sibling?
252 posted on 12/06/2001 12:36:38 PM PST by webstersII
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