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I would still push for the nuke inspections and then test the waters to see if Saddam will comply and then go to the international bodies to see if there is the go-ahead.(if they are worried about the allies)
1 posted on 12/05/2001 8:06:11 PM PST by umbra
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I don't know .. doesn't pass the smell test .. there more to this story
40 posted on 12/05/2001 8:47:24 PM PST by Mo1
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This is bogus. Wolfowitz is deputy Secretary of Defense, not State. Someone's got their facts all messed up.
44 posted on 12/05/2001 8:53:21 PM PST by Wphile
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To: umbra; Thinkin' Gal
Et tu, puer, propheta Altissimi vocaberis:
praeibis enim ante faciem Domini parare vias eius,
ad dandam scientiam salutis plebi eius
in remissionem peccatorum eorum,
per viscera misericordiae Dei nostri,
in quibus visitabit nos oriens ex alto,
illuminare his, qui in tenebris et in umbra mortis sedent,
ad dirigendos pedes nostros in viam pacis ”.

47 posted on 12/05/2001 9:21:24 PM PST by a history buff
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the next target may be Indonesia.

Let's think about this a moment. Now I know there are those that say 9/11 "changed everything" and such, but we need to maintain limited objectives if we want to be successful. The objective should be to get Osama bin Laden and his top aides that are likely at his side in Afghanistan. Then that should be it, come home, and repeal the USA Patriot Act and all of the goodies that the FBI got. America really should not attempt a worldwide crusade with country after country on its list, and I fear W. may be doing just that. If he really goes through with this "ridding the world of evil" stuff, America will at war perpetually. What will that do to us as a nation, at home, over the long term?

49 posted on 12/05/2001 9:25:45 PM PST by thuleanfire
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To: umbra
Smell of disinformation.
52 posted on 12/05/2001 9:30:44 PM PST by crystalk
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To: umbra
Wolfowitz is Deputy Secretary of Defense, not State.
59 posted on 12/05/2001 10:04:18 PM PST by piasa
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I don't know if the post is confused, correct, wrong, or otherwise.
I do know that Iraq can be controlled or contained by means short of war and probably not the same ones pioneered by bill clinton.
The next target in any war on terrorism must be some place where terrorists are known to be protected and can be identified and nailed.
Somalia perhaps. Indonesia because they are above ground. The PI because they are visible and the government would welcome the help and maybe allow for some raproachment.
Not Iraq where we've had years to target them while dancing around with the silly measures adopted after the Gulf War.
60 posted on 12/05/2001 10:08:38 PM PST by norton
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To: umbra; Howlin; piasa; KQQL
"Trixie" is a handle used by Lucianne Goldberg, and she hasn't been close to power in Washington, D.C. since her days in the Lyndon B. Johnson WH of shame.

umbra -- your source sux

63 posted on 12/05/2001 10:59:34 PM PST by onyx
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Believe me, we've got 63,000 reasons to go after Indonesia first.
65 posted on 12/06/2001 12:39:42 AM PST by Constantine XIII
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Crapola.
67 posted on 12/06/2001 3:58:48 AM PST by wny
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Iraq can be put on the table as fast as it can be taken off the table.....
70 posted on 12/06/2001 5:17:19 AM PST by b4its2late
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Wolfowitz walked out of the decision meeting absolutely furious,

Good, shows just what a team player this prima donna isn't. Let's hope he does something good for AMERICA and resigns in a snit....or hope that maybe GW will do the smart thing and demand his resignation.

He seems to have been the one man band for action against Iraq since September 12th, even before any evidence of Iraqi involvement. He overstepped his bounds on more than one occasion to the point where Chenney had to smack him down for recklessly shooting from the lip.
71 posted on 12/06/2001 5:18:08 AM PST by wheezer
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Indonesia? The US is going to attack an archipelego of 17,000 islands? What are those guys sniffing?
84 posted on 12/06/2001 6:49:36 AM PST by Patria One
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To: umbra
Wolfowitz is a deputy defense department secretary.
92 posted on 12/06/2001 7:52:17 AM PST by Endeavor
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I could go along with putting the lean on Indonesia. A lot of commercial shipping passes through the Strait of Malacca, especially oil tankers (I think about roughly a quarter of the world's trade, IIRC). Getting a base or two there would be most helpful when dealing with China.
94 posted on 12/06/2001 7:55:07 AM PST by adx
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The real story maybe, if you want to keep a secret don't tell the State Dept.
97 posted on 12/06/2001 8:04:20 AM PST by boomop1
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The news conference on FOX right now is answering a lot of these questions.
99 posted on 12/06/2001 8:17:22 AM PST by CountryBoyWillSurvive
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