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Group-rape of girl cover up in Holland - an update
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Posted on 12/03/2001 10:30:30 AM PST by knighthawk

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To: knighthawk; Travis McGee; Victoria Delsoul
At some point in one of these incidents there will be enough people outraged that the perpetrators will be taken out and dismembered by the neighbors. i am certain there will be then much moaning about how evil the aroused populace was to do this. However it will cause a decrease in the incidence of these rapes. I would point out every father, brother , and husband of a young girl should be as outraged as if it were their own child. The failure of the Dutch press to feret out this story from the start and the conspiracy of the Dutch politicians to keep this quiet is perhaps the most appalling aspect of this.

Knighthawk, I hope you are able to emigrate from Holland to the USA and enjoy becoming a citizen instead of a chattle.

Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

61 posted on 12/04/2001 5:23:18 AM PST by harpseal
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To: knighthawk; harpseal; Travis McGee
No, the police cannot deal with the situation, for the perpetrators are to young to be realy convicted in the Netherlands. Also, the police are almost not allowed to do anything about it because of the "social workers" who took care of this situation.

So the perpetrators are free to do what they want as long as they are young. Amazing!

The failure of the Dutch press to feret out this story from the start and the conspiracy of the Dutch politicians to keep this quiet is perhaps the most appalling aspect of this.

Most definitely, Harpseal.

And this girl has no father or brothers to take care of business I guess.

Her parents are dead.

62 posted on 12/04/2001 6:57:18 AM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Looking4Truth
Well, here's one case - a twenty year old young man who our mission started to work with as he was a common street person (into drugs, etc.) around our coffeebar. He was in an automobile accident when he was eighteen and crippled so that he couldn't do the job he graduated from high school to do. (The accident only affected the grip in his right hand and one leg was slightly shorter than the other so he had a slight limp.) The Dutch social services put him on the dole (with health services) for 80% of his salary for the REST OF HIS LIFE! Having no option to work, he found the challenge of living off the street something that gave him purpose. Every month when his dole check would come, he would take a week and spend all of it on drugs, prositution, etc. then take to the streets for the rest of the month, getting food by stealing and begging. At night he would sleep with squatters (people who break into empty buildings).
63 posted on 12/04/2001 8:31:44 AM PST by wjeanw
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To: wjeanw
Thanks for the insight.

I lived in Germany for a while and saw (and heard from the locals that I socialized with) things about the 'street people' that blew my mind. "That guy gets 2000DM a month just to beg.", etc, etc.

I've seen a lot of 'street people' here in the States and if they 'only knew' about the EU welfare state, the US would not have a 'homeless problem' at all.

Heck, these people here would sober up and get jobs long enough to try and gain citizenship in a place like Amsterdam just for those type of 'benefits'.

64 posted on 12/06/2001 1:59:44 AM PST by Looking4Truth
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To: Islamic_violence
BTT
65 posted on 12/29/2001 12:12:59 AM PST by harpseal
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To: knighthawk
It was about 33 years ago I first heard a Dutch person refer to some Nederlandish obscene outrage as "progressive", or was that "progresif"?

Whatever it was, there's some totally crazy stuff over there that they pass off as rational government - then, there's the hypocrisy of it all. The government tells this story about the census to the effect that you can't tell someone's race by looking at the numbers and categories.

Even a child can identify "race" in that census - it's all in the categories if you know how to read them.

You guys better escape soon, because we are going to be shutting down that European immigration door pretty soon lest we start getting some of your tainted ones over here!

66 posted on 06/07/2002 6:44:00 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Melinator
Sud Afrika is #1. Nigeria, which is now #2, used to be #1. Then there's Brazil!

You were misled by all those comparisons of American crime rates with those of the Northern European police states.

Actually, all things considered, virtually all parts of the United States would show up with roughly the European "average" (not counting Eastern Europe). A few parts of the US have far-above-average crime rates in all categories, and that raises the national average.

Now, when we dump Eastern Europe into the Northern and Western European statistics, Europe comes off very much worse than the US - kind of in between the US and Brazil.

67 posted on 06/07/2002 6:49:08 PM PDT by muawiyah
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May 15 where elections over here. The left (progressives they call themselves, progresief in Dutch) lost big time, and now a centrum-right government is forming. There is hope after all.
68 posted on 06/07/2002 6:56:43 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: Melinator
Wow. Socialism sounds like Paradise....(/sarcasm)
69 posted on 06/07/2002 7:08:31 PM PDT by stands2reason
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

from what I've read here, you people seem to have the worst view on the Netherlands I've heard in a long time, and perhaps some of it is true, but really it ain't all that bad, and believe me, the age of consent is still 16 in the Netherlands


70 posted on 05/31/2004 10:34:38 AM PDT by Ratioq
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Wrong again. The Age of Consent in the Netherlands is 12. Obviously, you don't live there.

"sex between an adult and a young person between the ages of 12 and 16 is permitted by law"

http://www.ageofconsent.com/netherlands.htm


71 posted on 05/31/2004 10:40:09 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: Ratioq
From what I've read here, you people seem to have the worst view on the Netherlands I've heard in a long time.

Welcome to Free Republic!

I don't think it's possible to have a "worst view" on the Netherlands. It's just a place, with tulips, beer, and wooden shoes. It's just some of the people IN the Netherlands that are the problem. I think many FReepers have a dim view of the Dutch socialist policies since the end of WWII. You guys shot your wad a long time ago.

If it has been a while since you have heard the "worst view", when was the worst view and what was it?

72 posted on 05/31/2004 4:35:35 PM PDT by bwteim (Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: Ratioq; AppyPappy
From your link Appy.

There, a proposal has been approved by the European Parliament that would criminalise forced sex with minors.

Ratioq,

Does this mean forced sex with minors is currently legal? Then how can the article be about rape???

73 posted on 06/01/2004 7:32:56 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: knighthawk

So the top two crime capitals of europe deny their citizens the right to defend themselves with the great equalizer.


74 posted on 06/01/2004 7:45:24 AM PDT by ampat
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sooner or later Euroscum will start begging the US for help against the Islamanzis...until they wake up all i can say is they brought this on themselves!


75 posted on 06/01/2004 7:52:33 AM PDT by rrrod
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To: sheik yerbouty

They execute the victim for fornication.
Would you like to reconsider?


76 posted on 06/01/2004 7:56:20 AM PDT by Little Ray (John Ffing sKerry: Just a gigolo!)
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To: mxbluto

Islamic wannabe "Mack daddies".


77 posted on 06/01/2004 8:15:53 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: Little Ray

My understanding(pre taliban) was that in such a case, Achmed would be separaeted from his "Al Gherkin". Of course, their sharia has since mutated out of control. How about this? Crazy glue the miscreants genitals to the floor, soak the room they are in with gasoline,gove them a Bowie knife, and tell them "You have a choice". Then light the aformentioned room up! Allahu Fubar!


78 posted on 06/01/2004 8:23:17 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: sheik yerbouty

If I understand correctly, to prove rape sharia requires the woman to produce three witnesses - women only count half. If the woman can't prove she was raped, she is in danger of being executed for fornication.

Your method is a waste of a good wood, gasoline, and a good knife.

More and more, I think we need to wage war against both the culture of Islam and the culture of political correctness that protects these subhumans.


79 posted on 06/01/2004 8:29:48 AM PDT by Little Ray (John Ffing sKerry: Just a gigolo!)
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To: Little Ray

I defer to your idea in this matter. A very strong treatment is needed to resect the cancer. Perhaps a little radiotherapy?


80 posted on 06/01/2004 8:44:31 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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